blood ring or blind

[Yorkshire Coop]

Yeah not ready then if you have seen blood.
Yes properly confirmed at a duck farm in my county about 50ish miles away. Been on the main UK news and confirmed by the department of agriculture DEFRA. I just hope it dosnt spread. Says on news this farm is having to cull six thousand Ducks.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

oh wow, that is scary . plastic bubbles over the coop. LOL

 

[Aphrael]

I see a little black beak this morning but there is blood (dried) around the pip. it is also at the small end on the side. first heavy snow, 4 1/2 in. so far and electric is flickering.

LOL, what nerves ? they are gone. it started the pip last night so i am thinking of trying to help but i dont know the right time. its little beak keeps going in and out of the same hole but there is a crack in the egg

Oh no! I will keep my fingers crossed the little guy makes it out alright.

If there is a pip and a crack it does sound like he might be making some progress on his own.

I would wait at least 12 hours before starting to assist have you read the assisted hatching by Sally sunshine? I can't remember if I added it earlier in this thread?
My heads a shed today I'm having serious nerves myself BIRD FLU has been confirmed In my area and I'm bricking it for my flock I don't want to lose them. I'm in quarantine from any body else who is chicken/duck inclined.

Yeah not ready then if you have seen blood.
Yes properly confirmed at a duck farm in my county about 50ish miles away. Been on the main UK news and confirmed by the department of agriculture DEFRA. I just hope it dosnt spread. Says on news this farm is having to cull six thousand Ducks.

Oh my gosh! That is awful.

I'm imagining those big protective bubbles over your coops like @granny hatchet mentioned.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

LOL like the movie the bubble boy. there really is people that have to live like that. so sad.

 

[Aphrael]

LOL like the movie the bubble boy. there really is people that have to live like that. so sad.

Yeah, that is very sad. I can't imagine being unable to have any real contact with the world we live in.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

the position of the baby, hope this makes sense. at the air sac is the feet , the head is on the side of them just under the half way mark of the egg. like if you divided the egg in half its head would be in the smaller end but just. I think its feet are in the way of it being able to get its head in the air sac. it can breath fine right now but its feet is pushing against the air cell causing the veins to bleed. I know this because i opened the air cell to get a better look. why are all of them positioned wrong?? I have them upright in the turner then on their side come lock down.

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

Eggs were set upright, with small end up. Eggs placed upright in the incubator should always be set with the large (air cell) end up.
Advancing breeder hen age and shell quality problems.
Egg turning frequency and angle were not adequate. Regular turning of the egg through a minimum 45 degree angle assists the embryo to position for hatch. Eggs should be turned at least 3 times daily, though more is better.
Inadequate percent humidity loss of eggs in the setter. Acceptable weight loss of eggs during incubation is 11-14%.
Inadequate air cell development, incorrect temperature and humidity regulation and insufficient ventilation in the incubator.
Imbalanced feeds, elevated levels of mycotoxins, and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.
Exposure to lower than recommended temperatures in the last stage of incubation.
Round shaped, or overly large eggs.
Eggs handled, or stored improperly.


These are the most common reasons for malpositioned chicks I've just copied it from the learning centre. I've always believed the most common reason is eggs set in the bator with the pointy end up when they should be fat end up. But as you can see from the list it can be many factors that cause malpositioned chicks.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Eggs were set upright, with small end up. Eggs placed upright in the incubator should always be set with the large (air cell) end up.
Advancing breeder hen age and shell quality problems.
Egg turning frequency and angle were not adequate. Regular turning of the egg through a minimum 45 degree angle assists the embryo to position for hatch. Eggs should be turned at least 3 times daily, though more is better.
Inadequate percent humidity loss of eggs in the setter. Acceptable weight loss of eggs during incubation is 11-14%.
Inadequate air cell development, incorrect temperature and humidity regulation and insufficient ventilation in the incubator.
Imbalanced feeds, elevated levels of mycotoxins, and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.
Exposure to lower than recommended temperatures in the last stage of incubation.
Round shaped, or overly large eggs.
Eggs handled, or stored improperly.


These are the most common reasons for malpositioned chicks I've just copied it from the learning centre. I've always believed the most common reason is eggs set in the bator with the pointy end up when they should be fat end up. But as you can see from the list it can be many factors that cause malpositioned chicks.

gonna try to narrow this down. eggs were large end up, this yrs hen and roo, used a turner, dry hatch til lock down, normal shaped eggs. no storage egg went straight in. so we have left, exposure to lower then recommended temp. at lock down, not sure what diet was before i got them but i would say it was good. they are on 16% layer now with grass , meal worms, as treat, and i have no idea what mycotoxins are. wow ! thanks for the info.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

does any one know how much blood is in a baby chick ? I am still working on this serama, the yolk is absorbed all the way but the shell is on its back down to the butt with one leg still trapped. its not active. but chirping. and i did see a blood vein yet that was bleeding and it left about a quarter size spot on a paper towel. I sprinkled some corn starch in the shell not knowing if it would help or not but i dont see any more. I wrapped it a little bit tight so it cant come out until that drys some more . I am wondering if that was a lot of blood for one so tiny ? it was a single layer of towel and went through to the other side with the same size of a quarter.

 

[PD-Riverman]

does any one know how much blood is in a baby chick ? I am still working on this serama, the yolk is absorbed all the way but the shell is on its back down to the butt with one leg still trapped. its not active. but chirping. and i did see a blood vein yet that was bleeding and it left about a quarter size spot on a paper towel. I sprinkled some corn starch in the shell not knowing if it would help or not but i dont see any more. I wrapped it a little bit tight so it cant come out until that drys some more . I am wondering if that was a lot of blood for one so tiny ? it was a single layer of towel and went through to the other side with the same size of a quarter.

I have not read the rest of your deal but If the yolk is absorbed he should be fine. When I take the chicks out the hatcher if some has shell etc stuck to it---We put them under warm(around 100 degree+/-) running water---keeping it out its mouth/nose---till we get the stuck shell etc off---- then put it back in the incubator till it dries----never a problem.