Blue Laced Red Orp Project

[flyingmonkeypoop]

They just look so fluffy and cudly.

 

[Wynette]

I know! I'm with ya.

 

[Krys109uk]

These are really very much wannabes.....the hens even lacing is worse, though their type is better than his. We need to put a different gene at the e-locus in order to be able to make it work.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Sorry but I am not sure of what the E locus is, is it the patterning? Just remember, they are projects so its okay if they have bad lacing, lol. I cant wait to see how this project goes in the next couple years, chickens are amazing like that.

 

[Krys109uk]

You're right. I'll have a go at getting some pics of the hens.
The e-locus. is a position where there are several possible alternative genes (alleles) that could be in every gene pair. The e-alleles affect the colour zoning of a bird. Such as a bird with extended black will be either black of a colour which is black based such as blue, but a wild type bird, for instance looks rather like the Kellogs cornflake cockerel & if he had a blue gene only the parts of him that would otherwise have been black will be made blue.
Most often results are predictable but every now & then something unexpected happens.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Ah, I see. Thanks for giving me the information. I always see people talking about it and have always wondered.

 

[Crunchie]

What exactly do you to do get blue-laced red, anyway? Did you have to introduce blue-laced red of another breed (wyandotte) that already exists? If so, what color did you breed the wyandotte to in the Orp? Or can you "make" blue-laced red from other colors?

Inquiring minds want to know. Blue-laced red fascinates me.

 

[Krys109uk]

What exactly do you to do get blue-laced red, anyway? Did you have to introduce blue-laced red of another breed (wyandotte) that already exists? If so, what color did you breed the wyandotte to in the Orp? Or can you "make" blue-laced red from other colors?

I expect one could use a BLRW as an outcross. I didn't; I made them from a gene combination which is one reason they're such a mess.
As blue Orps are supposed to be laced thus already having the necessary genes, perhaps that would be a good place to start. However that would lead to leg colour issues, which might cause trouble. Red could be a good cross but I don't know whether they are in US at present. (We are making some but they are not really quite typey enough to be called 'Orps' yet).​

 

[MissPrissy]

Single combed BLR wyandottes are possible. Look for them. I know a few people who have them. Lovely birds. Yellow leg color isn't usually hard to breed out. You'll have to hatch heavy and cull deep for many generations but you can do it.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

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If I remember right white legs are dominant over yellow so if she were to do a cross out to the single combed BLRW she would get white skinned and white legged birds. But depending on what she used to make her BLR Orpington project the BLRW might interfere with it and cause throwbacks or something, kind of like when crossing two lines of white show chickens, you can get anything, lol.