Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

[Clucksworth]

Not being able to stand up with no sign of injury is a common presentation of Mareks disease.

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[PeakyBeaky]

Ha finally got a front on shot.

 

[SonRise Silkies]

The simple answer is yes you will get some that are BLRW and some blue BUT that would take several breedings back to the BLRW to get the lacing to look right or be complete.

I am working with a project that is a similar kinda of cross I am on my 3rd generation and STILL the patter is muted and not as sharp as it should be. The easiest thing to do would be to get some BLRW pullets, but if you are just replacing your flock and are in no rush you can keep doing that breeding to get the lacing back. I would think you would need to add some new blood somewhere down the road though. You are going to lose vigor the more you cross back to the sire.

Thank you that does help...delisha answered also but that answer is what confuses me, [I DO NOT mean to be a smart mouth here,] when people say Black or Splash I have had them also mean not the solid colors as we think of them but Black sometimes mean a "BLRW: that comes with black lacing and I have seen many times the real light blue laced birds referred to as Splash, even though they are not true Splash but a very light laced bird.
Waaay to confusing to me when I'm not sure which they refer to.
delisha is correct of course splash and black always make blue but I am not sure if she meant solid colors or the laced?

These are just for me to look at and love and I know if I want good BLRW I will have to buy them. Since I all ready have these birds...the BLRW roo and the blue hens I was needing to know what I might expect from them.
The Wyandottes are beautiful birds and all colors are appealing in a flock [to me] so I'll be happy no matter what.
Thanks you for the reply and thank you also delisha for your help.

 

[Karen Whitfield]

Aha, I thought I saw similarities .

he looks very similar to my beautiful roo Boots. But I was told he was a BLGW. My granddaughter named him as she follows Dora haha

 

[gladahmae]

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Not being able to stand up with no sign of injury is a common presentation of Mareks disease.

Interesting. That actually wasn't o. My list of possibilities because of where he came from, but I'll keep it in mind. I'm leaning toward injury because he does use one leg as is clearly favoring the other. This if of course after my other 5 cockerels were taken out by the neighbors dogs. Makes me think I should just stick to my mutts and sex-links.

ETA: I culled him this afternoon. The leg had been favoring was basically 'dead.' Sucks. Now I have 3 pullets and no cockerel. Again.

 

[delisha]

Quote: The color works no matter if it is laced or not.

A black laced bird bred to a splash laced bird will give you all blue laced birds..etc
A black solid bird bred to a splash laced bird will give you all blue birds some might have some lacing but it will be incomplete and not very visible.
A black solid bird bred to a splash solid bird will give you all blue birds...ect ...with all of the rest of the color combinations.

A black to blue=black and blue
A blue to blue=black, blue, splash
Splash to splash= all splash
Black to black= all black


I hope this helps.

 

[PeakyBeaky]

Just an FYI-we will be selling BLR chicks...really soon. We have several pullets(all black laced) for sale at a reduced cost. Email if you want on a chick list

 

[Farmer Viola]

delisha is correct of course splash and black always make blue but I am not sure if she meant solid colors or the laced?

Someone recently posted asking if they bred their solid blues to a BLRW, if the lacing would come out right, so I think 2 different conversations were going on at once, or something. It was confusing!

If you start breeding a laced bird to a non laced bird, you are going to dilute the lacing and it won't be as correct/solid as the original laced parent. You would have to breed more and more lace back in to the chicks of those birds, and their chicks, to get it to come back.

Regardless of whether they are laced, the shades of blue are kind of like black diluted with white. You will get different shades of blue depending on the parents color on the scale of black to white, regardless of lace.

BUT if you start taking away the lacing gene (EG breeding 1 of these solid blues from a few pages back [pic below]), you won't have Blue Laced Red Wyandottes anymore, you'll have some kind of hybrid half-laced bird lawn ornament.

If I understand Staciaw right, she says she bred a Solid Splash hen to a Black Laced Red Roo and she got solid chicks (missing lace). So to get their lace back would take many generations of adding the lace back in. OR you start over and make only lace-on-lace pairs from now on.

I have a questions about colors. I am a little confused right now. My aunt bred her splash hen and black laced roo and got chicks that were BLUE, no lacing at all. What happened there? I know if you breed a splash and black lace you should get blue laced right? Here are the chicks, or would they have black lacing? I am new to this and trying to understand it lol

in summary, the blue color is separate of the lace gene. if you breed the lace gene out by using solid colored parents, you will get some solid colored chicks.

 

[gallito1982]

This is a Roo from chicken galore
From this at 2 weeks old

3 1/2 weeks old

6 weeks

And finally today 4 1/2 months

 

[ki4got]

delisha is correct of course splash and black always make blue but I am not sure if she meant solid colors or the laced?

the answer is yes... blue affects black pigment. it doesn't matter if it's part of a pattern or a solid feather, blue will always act the same.

the laced pattern is a set group of genes, and as long as that group is complete in both parent birds, then the chicks will also be laced. even when you breed different colors or breeds of laced birds together. the PATTERN won't change, but the color would be a total mixup until you solidified it one way or the other through selective breeding.