Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

[Farmer Viola]

if you breed blue to blue, it doesn't breed true.

I think they meant, blue x blue produces splashes and blacks so they "should" be accepted too.

I also think splash and blacks are really beautiful! but blue should be the only color in the standard imho

 

[subhanalah]

I think they meant, blue x blue produces splashes and blacks so they "should" be accepted too.

I also think splash and blacks are really beautiful! but blue should be the only color in the standard imho

it was my understanding that something cannot have an SOP if it doesn't breed true. So black and splash would have to be included, right?

 

[DMRippy]

You will not find many breeds with splash accepted. To breed true they have to breed true 50 for the sop. No splash and black will not be admitted. Most breeders of blues consider black and splash BIPRODUCTS and don't use them.

 

[subhanalah]

You will not find many breeds with splash accepted. To breed true they have to breed true 50 for the sop. No splash and black will not be admitted. Most breeders of blues consider black and splash BYPRODUCTS and don't use them.

thank you for this.
I know what I'm about to say isn't about chickens, but the blue gene works the same way and I'm wondering if anyone does it this way:
Meter has two flocks of swedish ducks, one black, one splash (silver).
For most of the year, they keep the black drakes with the splash hens and vice versa to hatch out 100% blues. During a certain time period before the next season, they put the blacks all together and the splashes all together to get black breeders and splash breeders for the next year.

Is there any reason this wouldn't work with the BLRW? Does the black have something in it genetically that adds to or takes away from a good BLRW?

 

[ShockValue]

Just found this thread, so I thought I'd jump in. Growth progression of my boy "Ike".

We're at about 13-14 weeks old now...






We're being a gentleman so far, but we'll see how this works once the hormones really kick in.

 

[Nickeechickee]

So here is the pic for someone that was wondering:



It's not the best, but maybe you can tell how the feathers towards her back and underside are a lighter shade than the ones at her top/neck? I'm pretty sure she'd be considered a black variety, yes?

And I couldn't get a good pic of her comb where the flash didn't white it out, it is flat and wide and sort of peachish. Please tell me that's normal and she is a she (I paid for sexed pullets, cannot have roos here...if she is a he then he'll end up getting sold best case scenario or in the soup pot). I don't know if this pic helps any:


(You can also see how the feathers further back are more faded looking than the ones towards her head.)

 

[Windy Bay Farm]

The free range mix here is what I think you guys call ' scratch ' , triticale, wheat, sunflower, cracked corn etc...... The Purina game bird is 19 % protein and contains animal protein . They would do well on just the MP if yours are content with pellets alone.

http://wildlife.purinamills.com/nutritionmanagement/ecmd2-0017430.aspx

Thanks for the info FCL. I purchased a bag of the Purina Game Bird Layena today as it's the only one that the local feed store carries for Game Bird. It has 20% protein. I'm hoping this will promote feather re-growth in a couple of my birds that are terribly bald around the hind end and back area. I believe this Game Bird Layena would be ok to feed in lieu of laying pellets as it has a high protein content. In your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use this vs. the layer pellets ? The layer pellets has about 16% protein.

 

[DMRippy]

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That would be a method. And you can do it, but the best blues come from blue to blue. I have a splash cockerel I am growing out and I have 2-3 blacks. I will mate him to them but the med blues will be the only ones I keep. The blue varies more with that cross so more culling...... blue to blue will give you birds the best color with less culling.

Black's have wider lacing than do the blues. Splash tend to not have as dark of a red so you do have a few more issues to over come with that mating.

The VAST majority of my matings of these birds will be blue x blue.

I just had this conversation on another thread. In that breed I don't breed for splash usually.... I will this season just because it has worked out that way. Normally I just breed black and blues for an equal mix. With dottes the color we are looking for is blue.... What ever way you get there is fine.

I have been told if your blues are too dark, use a splash to lighten it up. If your blues are too light use a black to darken them up. But lacing add a new element to those comments.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Thanks for the info FCL. I purchased a bag of the Purina Game Bird Layena today as it's the only one that the local feed store carries for Game Bird. It has 20% protein. I'm hoping this will promote feather re-growth in a couple of my birds that are terribly bald around the hind end and back area. I believe this Game Bird Layena would be ok to feed in lieu of laying pellets as it has a high protein content. In your opinion, do you think it would be ok to use this vs. the layer pellets ? The layer pellets has about 16% protein.

With the protein level being similar , the feather conditioner would be my choice , perhaps you could get your feedstore to order it for next time. With the calcium being over 3% this one would only be appropriate for layers or as it says one month prior to lay. If you have a mixed flock , ie youngsters and or roos the calcium level is too high for them. I have a mixed flock so I stick to the lower calcium product and have calcium carbonate on ' free take ' for the layers.

http://wildlife.purinamills.com/ste...dlife/documents/web_content/ecmd2-0017671.pdf

If you just keep layers , then yes this would be a superior product to your average layer pellet. Tell me did you ask about the micro pellet? Or is this product MP?

 

[Fancychooklady]

That would be a method.  And you can do it, but the best blues come from blue to blue.   I have a splash cockerel I am growing out and I have 2-3 blacks.  I will mate him to them but the med blues will be the only ones I keep.  The blue varies more with that cross so more culling...... blue to blue will give you birds the best color with less culling. 

Black's have wider lacing than do the blues.  Splash tend to not have as dark of a red so you do have a few more issues to over come with that mating. 

The VAST majority of my matings of these birds will be blue x blue. 

I just had this conversation on another thread.  In that breed I don't breed for splash usually.... I will this season just because it has worked out that way.   Normally I just breed black and blues for an equal mix.  With dottes the color we are looking for is blue.... What ever way you get there is fine.

I have been told if your blues are too dark, use a splash to lighten it up.  If your blues are too light use a black to darken them up.  But lacing add a new element to those comments.

Thanks for the info. I've just given a broody my first blue/blue eggs to set for me. Don't normally at this time of year ( winter ) but she's a great momma and not at all apposed to living in the brooder in the laundry , if need be.