After getting a better look on my computer, the cock doesnt' seem to have as much brass as my phone showed so not sure which one showed better colors. I don't think they are a bad group to work with at all. You can only do what you can with what you have I say. Good luck with them, either way they are still pretty.Thanks! They have much better coloring than my starter flock. These two are only 3.5 months old so they have quite a bit of growing and filling out to do. I'm hoping their type will be as good as their color. I'm going to keep my other pullets and probably one cockerel for now. It remains to be seen whether or not they will have anything positive to contribute.