Blue Laced Red Wyandotte THREAD!

[Countrypunk92]

Ki4got.
I see what you mean with the blew. It just looksl ike splash from my phone. But I just stated thst from the one pic. The lacing is to orangy(what I thought as brassy) the black laced red lookuemore golden laced..
There type is good though. Not bad in any means.



I am gunna post skme pics of my blrw tomorrow to show how much they have changed in a month. It is crazy.

 

[shanshan51]

That roo is NOT a breeder. Why are you adding a new roo? Can you not wait till you get a breeder from Foley?

He was offered to me. I am not adding him after a serious critique. I was hoping to get two roos. One from foley and one from another good line. I currently only have one roo with good type covering 7 hens. I like each roo to cover 3-4 for best fertility.

 

[Texasmja]

When Wyandotte breeders are faced with a situation as to choosing between two roosters/hens, with

(a) one being deeper/better color but lacking type or

(b) lacking perfect color but having much higher quality type

Do most choose color over type? How many generations does it take to improve type vs. color? I am a cutting horse breeder so I am in the habit of looking at type (conformation) first and adding color later. I just wonder which is harder to fix later in chickens. With horses conformation flaws are hard to breed out and some can never be fixed.

If any breeding experts would chime in I would appreciate your knowledge and hearing your experiences.

 

[ki4got]

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When Wyandotte breeders are faced with a situation as to choosing between two roosters/hens, with

(a) one being deeper/better color but lacking type or

(b) lacking perfect color but having much higher quality type

Do most choose color over type? How many generations does it take to improve type vs. color? I am a cutting horse breeder so I am in the habit of looking at type (conformation) first and adding color later. I just wonder which is harder to fix later in chickens. With horses conformation flaws are hard to breed out and some can never be fixed.

If any breeding experts would chime in I would appreciate your knowledge and hearing your experiences.

I don't know about the wyandotte breeders, but with dorkings, type is sorely lacking for many, so type is of utmost importance. color can be worked on once type exists. but i tend to think many people are concentrating on color first, since it is so nice, and losing sight of the 'big picture'.

 

[Texasmja]

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I don't know about the wyandotte breeders, but with dorkings, type is sorely lacking for many, so type is of utmost importance. color can be worked on once type exists. but i tend to think many people are concentrating on color first, since it is so nice, and losing sight of the 'big picture'.

I can see how color is blinding, especially in the laced birds, it is so beautiful.

 

[mrheinz77]

When Wyandotte breeders are faced with a situation as to choosing between two roosters/hens, with

(a) one being deeper/better color but lacking type or

(b) lacking perfect color but having much higher quality type

Do most choose color over type?  How many generations does it take to improve type vs. color?  I am a cutting horse breeder so I am in the habit of looking at type (conformation) first and adding color later.   I just wonder which is harder to fix later in chickens.  With horses conformation flaws are hard to breed out and some can never be fixed.

If any breeding experts would chime in I would appreciate your knowledge and hearing your experiences.

I've been told that you need to build the barn before you worry about painting it. This was by a former Speckled Sussex breeder.

 

[Texasmja]

I've been told that you need to build the barn before you worry about painting it. This was by a former Speckled Sussex breeder.

Good advice imo

 

[ki4got]

I've been told that you need to build the barn before you worry about painting it. This was by a former Speckled Sussex breeder.

that applies to any breed/variety. get the birds up to the physical characteristics needed, then worry about the color and other fine points...

for any breed, use the SOP in the order it is written. size and type first, then comb/feet/beak/etc. color is always last.

 

[mzstre]

DMRippy - I was reading over recent posts and am hoping you can explain what you mean by "feather shafting". Everyone else please feel free to jump in as well. Does anyone have a photo example? Thanks!

 

[ki4got]

DMRippy - I was reading over recent posts and am hoping you can explain what you mean by "feather shafting". Everyone else please feel free to jump in as well. Does anyone have a photo example? Thanks!

yes. "Shafting" refers to the shaft of the feather being a different color from the rest of the feather. lighter or darker are both considered faults in many varieties. Dorkings are an exception where shafting is considered part of the 'whole picture'.

here's a good example of both shafting and stippling. stippling is where the feather is not a uniform solid base color, but made up of small dots of lighter/darker shades. if you click the picture it'll bring a larger vesion. This is Orangey, one of my red dorking pullets.