BlueSeal Home Fresh Extra Egg or green mountain organic?

flwrldy

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Apr 20, 2017
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I have had my chickens on both, New Country Organics, and Green Mountain Organic pellets, both non-soy. On the new country organics, I lost two hens per necropsy results, die of fatty liver disease. So I switched them to the Green Mountain organic pellets. I also give them oyster shells and a grit that has calcium in it. My egg production has gone down the tubes. I’m also having some hens that lay eggs including one of my ducks, that the shells are like paper, or they have ridges around the edges, circle ridges around the edges of the eggs. Because of the paper shell eggs some eggs got broken and of course the chicken started eating them. :pop
Since then we blocked off the bottom nesting boxes so they can’t look in there for eggs, and I sit in there for hours :hmm and I haven’t found anybody eating eggs anymore:D. I’ll even put an egg on the floor and watch and they all ignore it. So unless a paper thin shell one gets broken and they get it before I do, and the little boogers know when there’s one of those, then they of course eat it, but they don’t actually go after the eggs that are hard shelled. Before we knew this we also trim their beaks which we hated to do but we were getting desperate, because our egg production had dropped so much, so we thought they were eating all the eggs. I’ve also put golf balls in the nesting boxes and fake eggs. I forgot to mention that my ducks also will eat the eggs, because one of them has the paper shell eggs too and the chickens watch for that egg. They especially will watch for the duck egg. Our ducks are now separated until they lay their eggs in the morning. I buy them all kinds of lettuces, greens and I feed them kale and Swiss chard out of the garden every single day, along with dandelions, plantain, grasses, and weeds I see them eat when free ranging.. Yesterday I went to my local feed store and I purchased a new feed, a non-organic feed from blue seal, called, Blue seal home fresh extra egg. It’s only 16% protein, so I was a little leery because I know part of the problem could be that they’re not getting enough protein, which is another thing I tried, I got there protein level to 21% starting yesterday giving them organic chick starter from New Country, which scares me because of losing the two hens from fatty liver disease on that feed. I guess they were picking out the corn and peas and leaving the rest, or that’s what we figured is why we lost two with the fatty liver. Yesterday I also purchased chicken vitamins and a drench. I put both of those in their water this morning. My question is has anyone had any good luck with the blue seal feed I bought yesterday, as far as egg production? I’m at my wits end I have been trying everything.:barnie
 
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The change in feed, beak trimming, possibly age of birds may all have contributed to the loss in egg production. Day length is shortening, and this is the time when older birds generally molt and take a break from laying. Have you checked feed analysis to assure that it is adequate for egg production ?
 
The change in feed, beak trimming, possibly age of birds may all have contributed to the loss in egg production. Day length is shortening, and this is the time when older birds generally molt and take a break from laying. Have you checked feed analysis to assure that it is adequate for egg production ?

This is been going on for over a month and my hens are only a year and a half old, actually not even a half old they were-year-old in April.
 
The change in feed, beak trimming, possibly age of birds may all have contributed to the loss in egg production. Day length is shortening, and this is the time when older birds generally molt and take a break from laying. Have you checked feed analysis to assure that it is adequate for egg production ?
The other thing is we trim their beaks at the beginning of this whole issue over a month ago.
 
Feed change and beak trimming (depending upon the severity) can cause a far longer laying break than that especially if it has thrown the birds into a molt. It is also the time of year when 1.5 year old hens routinely molt and take a break in their laying cycle.
 
Feed change and beak trimming (depending upon the severity) can cause a far longer laying break than that especially if it has thrown the birds into a molt. It is also the time of year when 1.5 year old hens routinely molt and take a break in their laying cycle.
Would a molt have started over a month ago though?. We only clipped off the very tip, of the edge of the beak we used toenail clippers and it didn’t seem to affect them in anyway. In fact they’ve all grown back.
 
Tip trimming should not have been a problem. I thought that you might have trimmed back into the quick. Are your birds molting ?
 
As previously said, check them for molt. You will see pin feathers coming in somewhere, look around tail and vent, under wings around head and neck. Molt can be very soft and almost not noticeable sometimes, but will still stop them laying. I don't see whether you have oyster shell available for them. If not, that could contribute to weak shells. I mix oyster shell 50/50 with ground up egg shells and they like it better that way, you should have it available all the time in a separate feeder so they can take what they need for calcium, needs can vary from bird to bird. I would find a feed that is 18-20% protein and is either crumbles or pellets so that they can't pick and choose which parts they eat. Whether crumbles or pellets is just your preference or whichever they seem to like best. And make sure that your treats (which is everything except feed-even the 'good stuff') isn't more than 10% of their diet. What they eat in that is not going to be eaten in feed, and can make a big difference it the total protein they actually take in.
 

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