Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[ashandvine]

Two birds I got from Erik Nelsen Line. This year's birds and poor camera skills

 

[Gallusfarm]

In five to ten years many of the Rocks and Wyandottes just as a example will be gone. Only one or two have them and even some of the birds the have are almost near hatchery level.

I find this hard to believe. Where do you get these numbers? Each month there are several good examples of these breeds winning at shows across the country. See them in the Poultry Press or in the flesh at the shows. The APA yearbook there are many ads by well known breeders for quality stock, these aren't people who keep a few birds for pets they are the real deal. Breed Clubs - if a breed club has 100 members to be sure more than one or two people have decent stock.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Quote: I was the National Sectary for the Plymouth Rock Fanciers Club for four years. When it comes to Silver Pencil led, Colombian , Buff and Partridge there are maybe two people who have either one of these color patterns. You get requests from people when you are a Club Sectary wanting to get these color patterns. Now Mr. Urch may have these color patterns in Rocks he may have them in Wyandottes , but what happens in two or five years when he retires from breeding these birds. Unless Murry Mc Murry or Mr. Fox at Ideal buys all these birds and takes them to their farms who is going to supply these breeds that he may have in the PAST?

You can say well there are five or ten people who have Silver Pencil led Plymouth Rocks? I only know about two who have anything worth purchasing from. Some have the color pattern but they are two notches above hatchery quality. If you call hatchery quality chickens part of the numbers around you can. For example who has Partridge Wyandotte large fowl that are show quality or have been breed by a good breeder or judge for at least 10 years. I know of one judge in Iowa. How about Silver Laced. They are looking pretty good right now I know of two good breeders one in Canada and one I think in Penn who has some great ones. I know of a fellow who has some of both who is getting started but does not have the chicks yet to get going. Last year he had a poor hatch from his $100. each birds he got.

My last year I had requests like no buddy's business for Blue Rock Large Fowl I knew of one person in Fla and had at least ten people who wanted them. They could care less about the other colors as they thought Blue was so pretty. I have a friend who has Partridge Rock large fowl he got from Dick Horstman. He has had them for about four years. He got eggs from Dick. He is having a devil of a time finding some one who has some blood lines other than Dicks. So where are all these good breeders with these rare colors in Rocks and Wyandottes. I get the Poultry Press for many years I do not see many Rocks in there that are getting on champion row other than the Whites and the Bar reds some times. They are a color pattern making a come back. We promoted them like crazy about two years ago when Kathy was trying to get some for her Delaware Project. That's when we found the German New Hampshire's and they took off like a rocket ship. The other color patterns have still been slow to get people to own but the pretty the color the harder it is to breed. Beginners can not be expected to maintain a old color pattern like Partridge, Colombian or Silver Pencil led and kept these colors from going away. If it was not for Mr. Urch we would not have a lot of these old color patterns.

Heck my Mottle Javas are very rare. People did not even know this line I have is still alive. They thought they died off seven or ten years ago.

So show me all the breeders of these rare colors and I will stand corrected. How many Dark Bahama large fowl breeders do we have left? I know about two good ones. Maybe a few of their customers.

In the Rock Club most of the members nearly 200 have bantams. Not many show large fowl. WHY. MONEY. That's another issue I got to talk about for some who have sent me messages. How do you afford to own a flock of rare H large Fowl. Will your wife let you invest all this feed money into one two or three different breeds.

Thanks for your message maybe others will comment on it as well.

http://www.heritagepoultry.org/join/

here is a guy promoting old breeds as well.

 

[Gallusfarm]

Thanks for the explanation Bob.

 

[Kiniska]

Love this thread! So much interesting information.

 

[MagicChicken]

Heck my Mottle Javas are very rare. People did not even know this line I have is still alive. They thought they died off seven or ten years ago.

Speaking of your Mottled Javas, have they calmed down at all?

Sarah

 

[fowlman01]

Champion American and Best of Show. 3900 birds. A large White Rock.

Walt

 

[thedragonlady]

Champion American and Best of Show. 3900 birds. A large White Rock.

Walt

Lovely bird in super white condition !

 

[BarnGoddess01]

Champion American and Best of Show. 3900 birds. A large White Rock.

Walt

Walt, I hear the Marans did VERY well at Stockton. Reserve Continental with a pullet in the Jr. division and Reserve Continental with a cockerel in the Open division. I'm told they did face some serious competition from the Polish which were well represented. Did you see them? Are we making strides with Marans?

 

[3riverschick]

Walt, I hear the Marans did VERY well at Stockton. Reserve Continental with a pullet in the Jr. division and Reserve Continental with a cockerel in the Open division. I'm told they did face some serious competition from the Polish which were well represented. Did you see them? Are we making strides with Marans?

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Were those Marans from Texas lines?
Karen