Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Yard full o' rocks]

Like Fred's Hens, we raise and run beagles as rabbit dogs (although we don't field trial much anymore)...since my boys were VERY young, they understood the word for a female dog and are allowed to use it in the proper context and ONLY around others in the hobby

When we did field trial, the word was used so frequently we didn't have much choice.

I still remember an older gentleman coming up to my father-in-law (with my boys there...probably 4 and 8 or so) and he asked " would you consider selling me that little b****?" After that I knew I had to set the record straight

 

[NYREDS]

I have seen folks at the shows frustrated because they don't understand the "code" ....

I've seen folks DQ'd at the shows because they don't understand the "code" and they entered the wrong thing on the card. The ultimate in humiliation. You don't even get to find out if your bird is junk or not because you messed up the card. Sheesh. I know we should all become experts before we bring our birds out but that simply isn't reality.

I like to think places like BYC and this forum are a good place for folks to come to learn without being subjected to ridicule and that is not always the case. The folks here on BYC HAVE adopted a language, like it or not, right or wrong, origins from multiple sources. We rely on folks like Walt and NYREDS etc., to "show us the way". Hopefully, without being too frustrated by our new cutsie language.

If their not understanding the "code" means entering a bird in the wrong class eg: entering a cock as a cockerel what would you have the judge do? Move the bird to the right location, edit the coop tag? The exhibitor has the responsibility to enter his or her bird properly. If understanding the meaning of 4 terms; cock, hen, cockerel & pullet is too difficult maybe the individual needs a different hobby, like making pot holders.
Showing chickens, showing dogs, knitting, flying kites & any other passtime you'd care to name all have a language of their own. I can't think of any reason why a participant in any of them wouldn't wany to learn the language.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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I am not blaming the judge. I get it. If we enter them wrong. We're **** out of luck. And I do get we should have done our homework before we came out. Nobody to blame but ourselves. However, that doesn't dull the sting at the moment.

I have NOTHING but respect for what you guys have to put up with. I've seen the birds you have to handle and judge. I chased more than a few of them around show grounds! I've entered some of those fine birds you have to handle and judge.

And I proudly refer to them as COCK birds because that's what they are. Not a stinkin' roo in the lot!! Roos are nice, backyard birds, easy to get along with. Even my Silkies can be cocks! Need I say more????

I am only on the cause for evolution. There is more than one way to describe a male chicken and we shouldn't necessarily be dismissed for the term we choose to use to describe our bird.

And I love to argue. What can I say?

 

[Maggiesdad]

And now back to our regular program -

HERITAGE LARGE FOWL



(before Bob jerks a knot in our collective tails!

)

 

[Wynette]

Great discussion, and (with my mod hat on...sorry...) I applaud ALL for keeping the peace, having your say without being jerks about it, and moving on. It's one of the things I love best about this thread. to me, most folks on here are absolutely more passionate about the fancy. That often translates into discussing....potential arguments...and huge attitudes abounding. That's all okay. It's how it is HANDLED that separates "the men from the boys" in these threads.

I wish there were more threads like this one on BYC.

 

[fowlman01]

If their not understanding the "code" means entering a bird in the wrong class eg: entering a cock as a cockerel what would you have the judge do? Move the bird to the right location, edit the coop tag? The exhibitor has the responsibility to enter his or her bird properly. If understanding the meaning of 4 terms; cock, hen, cockerel & pullet is too difficult maybe the individual needs a different hobby, like making pot holders.
Showing chickens, showing dogs, knitting, flying kites & any other passtime you'd care to name all have a language of their own. I can't think of any reason why a participant in any of them wouldn't wany to learn the language.

Not only do they have a language of their own......they have entry forms that tell you how to enter. If a person can't understand it there is always a telephone number to call and get help. They don't give us enough time to resolve coop tag problems. At a small fair, I might spend the time to figure it out and change the records, but I don't feel sorry for an adult when they enter incorrectly. I do it myself, but I catch it at the show before the judging and fix it. I'm only mad at myself, not the people who copied what I supplied..

Walt

 

[3riverschick]

In this modern, online world, I think the smart breeders will start to recognize that use of the word "roo" maybe shouldn't be the only reason to write someone off right away. Maybe you should ask a few more questions.

More questons is a good thing. Like what breeding system(s) are they planning on using? What kind of coop/yard set-up do they have? I am not sure asking about feeding specifics is real revealing because there are so many ways to feed birds...unless one counts the general knowedge involved in the answer. Asking the inquirer which books they have in their library can be revealing.
Best,
Karen

 

[fowlman01]

Great discussion, and (with my mod hat on...sorry...) I applaud ALL for keeping the peace, having your say without being jerks about it, and moving on. It's one of the things I love best about this thread. to me, most folks on here are absolutely more passionate about the fancy. That often translates into discussing....potential arguments...and huge attitudes abounding. That's all okay. It's how it is HANDLED that separates "the men from the boys" in these threads.

I wish there were more threads like this one on BYC.

This time you posted before me while I was typing. We weren't even throwing furniture yet, but it has run it's course.

w.

 

[3riverschick]

LOL....I think you missed the edit to my post!!

Cock-a-doodle-do !!
The birds have been saying it since dirt.

 

[fowlman01]

More questons is a good thing. Like what breeding system(s) are they planning on using? What kind of coop/yard set-up do they have? I am not sure asking about feeding specifics is real revealing because there are so many ways to feed birds...unless one counts the general knowedge involved in the answer. Asking the inquirer which books they have in their library can be revealing.
Best,
Karen

There are a lot of ways to feed for certain results. And you probably do Karen.....just read about it and pick the formula you see repeated most often. Over the years I have found that location and climate can effect how a certain way of feed may work. It may work here, but not at your place.

There are all kinds of approaches to feed.....all mine is off the shelf, but a good grade.

Walt