Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Would love to see photos if you get a chance! I stumbled across this real early rendition of the SOP on Columbians when I was browsing historical info. on Rocks...thought you (and others) may enjoy seeing it...Did not see a photo for the male though.


Such a stunning fowl. Too bad it is eb based, sigh. So much written on how to breed them for color, but can't use it for my Light Sussex.
Sigh,
Karen
 
end part of an article by Mr. Fisk, Vice President of the APA in 1918.
in American Poultry Advocate, Volume 26

"What is the reason at this time for recommending and urging the keeping of a "home flock" of hens? This is a most natural question and most easily answered.
The United States is now involved in the greatest war for freedom and liberty the world has ever known. The war will and must be won. There is no compromise and no going back. The future peace and prosperity of all nations depend on the outcome—the final "victory." Hundreds of thousands, yes, millions of our finest young men and women are being called upon to give up their families, their business, their very lives for this great cause. Some are already on the fighting line, others are in camps, both here and on the other side—preparing. Our own great army and the armies of our Allies must be fed. The United States must furnish the greater amount of food required. Every pound of beef, mutton, pork, wheat, etc., must be conserved for this purpose.
Those of us at home that cannot go— for reason of health, age, or any other just cause—must not only do our bit, but our all, to win. The United States Food Administration asks us to substitute poultry and poultry products to a largo extent as possible—to take the place di the other food that is so much needed. In order to do this, the amount of poultry raised -must be increased—not only doubled, but trebled or quadrupled, the larger the amount the better. Chickens can be matured in five to six months; cattle, hogs, sheep, etc., take much longer. Everyone that has 20 feet square of yard space can keep chickens to advantage. Everyone should.
_ Poultry Raising is a Patriotic Duty.
Every farmer and poultry breeder should hatch and raise every chicken possible.
Write the United States Department of Agriculture or your State Agricultural College for instructions and methods of Back-yard Poultry Keeping.
Be a patriot—order your flock at once, and make your preparations to care for them. Poultry can and will help win the war.
"P" stands for patriotism, poultry, pleasure, profit."
 
On the other hand I've been around for awhile too & have never quarantined anything. When i come home from a show the birds go right back where they were when they left for the show. When I buy new birds they go right in with all the others. The only precaution I do take is hitting them all with some louse powder before they go back in the barn. Visitors are welcome to go where they want-no booties or anything else. This has been my practice for the last 50+ years & I've never had a bad outcome as a result. I think people get a little carried away with "bio-security".

I agree here too and all I can say it generally comes down to natural selection and survival of the fittest here, you either have good strong birds with an immune system to handle it or will develop this over a time through keeping good healthy birds and breeding for such. ALL it takes is ONE mockingbird flying over the pen to administer/deposit a lethal dose of "whatever" he has in his guts right out there for all that comes in contact with it. The birds that you raise either got what it takes to fend off such, or they die. Simple as that.

We raised up multi-thousands of broilers at a time here, at once upon a time. There were times when we would have outbreaks/ infestations with some disease or parasites,illnesses as most commercial operations have simply because of numbers dealt with, plus too the birds provided had no immune systems bred into them as they are only to live for 6 wks and go to slaughter. Anyway we had yard chickens here at the house, my Grandfather had chickens, my Uncle had them at his house-place on the broiler farm, we walked right in there and tended them with the same shoes and clothing on we had just toiled all day at the broiler farm in, our birds didn't kill over dead from this. We might have brought in a louse or a mite or two from time to time but so could've a visiting dove from a nearby pasture too. So yes the "bio-security" issue is blown out of proportion just a tad I'd say.

Nowadays I don't think you can have a neighboring backyard coop within a certain amount of area/vicinity of such an operation because of "bio-security" simply because the stuffs the "healthy" chickens that are laying eggs and living a perfectly normal chicken life have would kill the ones being grown for our food we buy from and eat at "walmarts", go figure.
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OK FOLKS.....got a weird question for y'all

I have a BLRW hen that is going broody. Her sister is currently rearing a clutch of 4 Col Rock chicks that are about 4 weeks old and doing a great job.

I have several batches of eggs in the incubator, 1 due a week from Sunday coming, the other due the following week. Instead of setting yet MORE eggs under her, I was considering giving her some that are already "half baked". Has anyone ever done this? Will giving her eggs that won't take 21 days hatch cause any issues with her?

Any advise is appreciated...HAPPY FRIDAY
 
OK FOLKS.....got a weird question for y'all

I have a BLRW hen that is going broody. Her sister is currently rearing a clutch of 4 Col Rock chicks that are about 4 weeks old and doing a great job.

I have several batches of eggs in the incubator, 1 due a week from Sunday coming, the other due the following week. Instead of setting yet MORE eggs under her, I was considering giving her some that are already "half baked". Has anyone ever done this? Will giving her eggs that won't take 21 days hatch cause any issues with her?

Any advise is appreciated...HAPPY FRIDAY
You can give her the half incubated eggs. They do not know how to tell time so she will snap into mother mode when they hatch.

It is also ok to wait until the chicks hatch in the incubator and put them under her then.
 
I agree here too and all I can say it generally comes down to natural selection and survival of the fittest here, you either have good strong birds with an immune system to handle it or will develop this over a time through keeping good healthy birds and breeding for such. ALL it takes is ONE mockingbird flying over the pen to administer/deposit a lethal dose of "whatever" he has in his guts right out there for all that comes in contact with it. The birds that you raise either got what it takes to fend off such, or they die. Simple as that.

We raised up multi-thousands of broilers at a time here, at once upon a time. There were times when we would have outbreaks/ infestations with some disease or parasites,illnesses as most commercial operations have simply because of numbers dealt with, plus too the birds provided had no immune systems bred into them as they are only to live for 6 wks and go to slaughter. Anyway we had yard chickens here at the house, my Grandfather had chickens, my Uncle had them at his house-place on the broiler farm, we walked right in there and tended them with the same shoes and clothing on we had just toiled all day at the broiler farm in, our birds didn't kill over dead from this. We might have brought in a louse or a mite or two from time to time but so could've a visiting dove from a nearby pasture too. So yes the "bio-security" issue is blown out of proportion just a tad I'd say.

Nowadays I don't think you can have a neighboring backyard coop within a certain amount of area/vicinity of such an operation because of "bio-security" simply because the stuffs the "healthy" chickens that are laying eggs and living a perfectly normal chicken life have would kill the ones being grown for our food we buy from and eat at "walmarts", go figure.
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Jeff


I am new to chickens but I wanted (past tense...my plans are now derailed as follows) to do heritage breeds seriously with a smattering of a bit of everything in a laying flock.

I have a quarantine pen and two of the birds I had in it (after many many weeks…I was coop building and it took a while) came down with a sneeze and turns out had MG. I am being told by the State lab that that my whole flock might be carriers for life and that I should not take my birds off my property to shows or swaps. Reasoning: I was making sure that germs didn't leave the quarantine pen, but not that I didn't track them IN to the ones in quarantine.

Now, mind you, my freeranging birds have no symptoms at all. And it would be 75$ each to test them to see if they are actually carriers. The birds that I took in to have tested were killed to do the testing and so are out of the picture. The 3 other birds that were in the quarantine pen are still there…with me not knowing what to do with them. (a gorgeous red dorking rooster and a couple of red dorking pullets that I WAS going to start my breeding program with) and I am only a year into owning chickens at all. I am so frustrated but I want to be ethical and I cant abide the thought of transmitting disease into someone elses flock.

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I know the finches at our bird feeder have had MG because I nursed one back to health with it a few years ago, I just didn’t know then what it was. (house finch conjunctivitis) but when I asked the state lab about that…they said that yes, the wild birds are carriers and I cant control wild birds so I should probably keep my birds indoors. (THAT’s not going to happen!)

what would you guys do in my situation?
 
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