Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[wsmith]

I believe he just put a list on the Dorking facebook group.

I perused the list he posted on the Dominique FB group. The term "extensive" is an understatement. He told me he hasn't even gotten to the Dominique boxes yet........

 

[Robert Blosl]

Need computer skills artistic help. I am putting a article together for beginners on back angle of different breeds of chickens. That is a Rhode Island Red is brick shape and the female top line is flat. A Rock has a lift of say35 degrees like the male pictured above. Do yu have the ability to take a picture and draw a line of where a line should be to make it say 25 degrees. Or if I had a picture of a Plymouth Rock with a 50 degree lift I could put a line at where I should be at say 35 degrees to illustrate my point to the person who is reading this article?

If you have the ability I have three pictures I could email to you and you could send back to me. Also, if I have a picture of a bird is there a way we can make a negative of it or blure out the head some so I wont embarrass the poor soul who is so proud of this cull.

I got some pictures that are just down right bad and these people think they got show champions and I just hate to make them look bad if they should ever see this article. Hope some of you younger computer skilled folks can help a old breeder out of chickens. bob

send me a personnel message and I will send you my email address.

 

[Pathfinders]

Need computer skills artistic help. I am putting a article together for beginners on back angle of different breeds of chickens. That is a Rhode Island Red is brick shape and the female top line is flat. A Rock has a lift of say35 degrees like the male pictured above. Do yu have the ability to take a picture and draw a line of where a line should be to make it say 25 degrees. Or if I had a picture of a Plymouth Rock with a 50 degree lift I could put a line at where I should be at say 35 degrees to illustrate my point to the person who is reading this article?

If you have the ability I have three pictures I could email to you and you could send back to me. Also, if I have a picture of a bird is there a way we can make a negative of it or blure out the head some so I wont embarrass the poor soul who is so proud of this cull.

I got some pictures that are just down right bad and these people think they got show champions and I just hate to make them look bad if they should ever see this article. Hope some of you younger computer skilled folks can help a old breeder out of chickens. bob

I can help you with that if you'd like, been working as a graphic arts person (computers and non) for more than 30 years.

Email me what you have at pathfindersfarm AT gmail DOT com and I'll see what I can do. Happy to help as I can.

 

[Pathfinders]

I perused the list he posted on the Dominique FB group. The term "extensive" is an understatement. He told me he hasn't even gotten to the Dominique boxes yet........

Wow. No kidding is extensive an understatement! 5312 entries in the spreadsheet.

Oh, why can't I just win the lottery...

 

[Ripster]

Here's a link to the book Laura was talking about, "Call of the Hen". http://archive.org/details/cu31924003144031 There are many, many old poultry publications on this site www.archive.org

Enjoy,

Ripster

 

[colburg]

Need computer skills artistic help. I am putting a article together for beginners on back angle of different breeds of chickens. That is a Rhode Island Red is brick shape and the female top line is flat. A Rock has a lift of say35 degrees like the male pictured above. Do yu have the ability to take a picture and draw a line of where a line should be to make it say 25 degrees. Or if I had a picture of a Plymouth Rock with a 50 degree lift I could put a line at where I should be at say 35 degrees to illustrate my point to the person who is reading this article?

If you have the ability I have three pictures I could email to you and you could send back to me. Also, if I have a picture of a bird is there a way we can make a negative of it or blure out the head some so I wont embarrass the poor soul who is so proud of this cull.

I got some pictures that are just down right bad and these people think they got show champions and I just hate to make them look bad if they should ever see this article. Hope some of you younger computer skilled folks can help a old breeder out of chickens. bob

send me a personnel message and I will send you my email address.

Bob, I can probably help you out with the bricks, lines, and angles. It may take a couple of iterations to get exactly what you want.

I'm not sure about the negative or blurring, but could easily block it out.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

Alright, I know that there are other threads on this site that love their mutts. Indeed, a purebred breeder thread is probably in the vast minority. Still, here's something I just posted on another site concerning hatcheries. I'm kind of dumbfounded. Do they simply have no PR? From which pen did they pull these birds, and what comes out of their other pens?:

OK, so, Backyard Poultry magazine has a lot of subscriptions--a lot, and it's true that the majority of the content of the magazine--in keeping with its name--might be classed as backyard-ish. That's cool. Of course they have many advertisements selling all sorts of everything, some of this quality, some of that quality, and, of course, all of the major hatcheries advertise there, as it is, at the end of the day, probably the single largest poultry publication on the continent. Moreover, its not their job to police their advertisers. However.....

Check out page 5. Ideal Poultry's full-page ad, and tell me what "breed" they're featuring??? They're actually featuring mutts....not mutts in the "not-up-to-standard-snuff sense", but mutts in the "what-the-heck-is-that sense." In the corner to the photo of these two unidentifiable pullets, it reads "Many Breeds to Choose From"; well, six of them are contained within these pullets! I'm actually not exaggerating, if anyone knows how to scan an image and has this ad, pop it up here. Ha! I'm kind of flabbergasted.

When the "Largest supplier of Backyard Poultry in the USA" (quote from their ad) no longer even feels the need to pretend to be a legitimate source for purebred poultry by selecting two mongrel pullets as the focus of their ad--they literally being 1/2 of a full page ad. Mongrels! Backyard, mixed flock mongrels. They're not even Production Reds or some sort of sex-link. They're actually just mutts.

White flag. White flag. It's hopeless.

 

[Wynette]

Sorry for the hijack, but I was just discussing "station" with a friend offline.

I'm curious what folks will say about this - how important is station in poultry? Is it something that's a bit of an "afterthought" so to speak, or are there folks who pay very close attention in their breeding choices to it? If a bird is supposed to posess, say, a medium station and has, instead, a high station, would they be faulted for this at a show? And what of a bird that is heavier than the standard calls for; would this bird not naturally have a higher station? Would he then be faulted twice (heavy/high station), or would this be looked at as one thing?

 

[Yellow House Farm]

Sorry for the hijack, but I was just discussing "station" with a friend offline.

I'm curious what folks will say about this - how important is station in poultry? Is it something that's a bit of an "afterthought" so to speak, or are there folks who pay very close attention in their breeding choices to it? If a bird is supposed to posess, say, a medium station and has, instead, a high station, would they be faulted for this at a show? And what of a bird that is heavier than the standard calls for; would this bird not naturally have a higher station? Would he then be faulted twice (heavy/high station), or would this be looked at as one thing?

Length and placement of leg is very important, as well as back line and breast line, tail set, all of these things affect "station" ; thus, it is very important insofar as these traits are key to the overall appearance of the fowl.

 

[Pathfinders]

Alright, I know that there are other threads on this site that love their mutts. Indeed, a purebred breeder thread is probably in the vast minority. Still, here's something I just posted on another site concerning hatcheries. I'm kind of dumbfounded. Do they simply have no PR? From which pen did they pull these birds, and what comes out of their other pens?:

OK, so, Backyard Poultry magazine has a lot of subscriptions--a lot, and it's true that the majority of the content of the magazine--in keeping with its name--might be classed as backyard-ish. That's cool. Of course they have many advertisements selling all sorts of everything, some of this quality, some of that quality, and, of course, all of the major hatcheries advertise there, as it is, at the end of the day, probably the single largest poultry publication on the continent. Moreover, its not their job to police their advertisers. However.....

Check out page 5. Ideal Poultry's full-page ad, and tell me what "breed" they're featuring??? They're actually featuring mutts....not mutts in the "not-up-to-standard-snuff sense", but mutts in the "what-the-heck-is-that sense." In the corner to the photo of these two unidentifiable pullets, it reads "Many Breeds to Choose From"; well, six of them are contained within these pullets! I'm actually not exaggerating, if anyone knows how to scan an image and has this ad, pop it up here. Ha! I'm kind of flabbergasted.

When the "Largest supplier of Backyard Poultry in the USA" (quote from their ad) no longer even feels the need to pretend to be a legitimate source for purebred poultry by selecting two mongrel pullets as the focus of their ad--they literally being 1/2 of a full page ad. Mongrels! Backyard, mixed flock mongrels. They're not even Production Reds or some sort of sex-link. They're actually just mutts.

White flag. White flag. It's hopeless.

What issue is this, the latest one? (NB: I write a regular bi-monthly column for Backyard Poultry Mag, as part of an agreement with them to permit the ABA to get a free ad every month.) I'll go check my latest issue to see if I can find it, and if I can, I'll scan it.

And DO NOT get me started on what Ideal considers a purebred chicken. Had a long phone chat with the owner several years ago regarding their "Dutch Bantams" (which just flat out aren't), and he told me he considers a bird to be purebred at F5 after being crossed.

Um, no. Sorry, but no.