Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[thedragonlady]

How do you gauge how much bluing is enough bluing versus how much is too much...before you turn them blue, I mean.

I used a large bowl . In that I put 1/2 capful of Downey, and 8 drops of bluing. You want the water swimming pool blue. Not much darker.
Downey doesn't make harder feathered birds fuzz up. It just replaces some of the oils that the Dawn removes, and makes them smell nice too.

Walt, I'd be willing to bet $ that your games rarely get completely washed. Heads, vents, and feet yes, but not the whole bird. A wipe over with a damp silk scarf, then a polish with a dry one, should do it.

 

[MagicChicken]

I have a question on a article I am putting together on Washing Chickens before a Poultry Show.

I have five tubs of water. One with soap these rinses and a final tub rinse with a little of Mrs. Old Fashion bluing in it.

I would like to put in tub one with the soap a mite killer of some sort. I would have say four gallons of water and the soap Ivory bar of soap say but what would you recommend or read or ;use or think would be save to use for the kill the mite while you was program?

Permithian was one I heard a old boy use. He just poured it in. Never could bet a measurement like a half a oz or one fourth oz per gallon or per five gallon.

If you have a idea or see the instructions on the internet maybe you can lead me to it so I can figure this out.

Thank you and nice pictures of the orps. Station was there dead center and plum

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this is what he used after he came back from a show. He mixed up a five gallon bucket and put them up to there wattles and pulled them out and let them dry in conditioning pens for ten days after a show. But he would never tell me how much a cap full or what. bob

0.50% solution - 5-1/2 ounces Permethrin in 1 gallon water.

I asked some folks in my poultry club about this just a couple of days ago. The recommendation was dog shampoo with permethrin, used as a dip. A capful or two in a five gallon bucket of water. Dip the bird up to the wattles. If you're washing before a show, then rinse the bird a couple of times. If you're treating for mites/lice don't rinse the bird. Just let it dry. The dip was preferred over dusting because you know which birds have been treated already - they are wet. Am getting ready to try it. Will let you know how it works.

Trying to imagine dunking my larger cockerels in a five gallon bucket. It would be a tight fit. Think I'll hunt down a slightly larger washtub for this operation.

 

[Wisher1000]

I would think some of those tall kitchen garbage cans, set in a frame to keep them stable, would work well and not require too much solution to get enough depth. Just a thought......

Like this 10 gallon commercial waste basket that Walmart.com sells (six for $30.) I would build a 2x3 frame to keep them from tipping over.






As most of you know, I am trying to break into breeding. I am also trying to educate myself on evaluating breeder fowl. Here is a pic of one of my cocks. Please critique him so I can see if my own thoughts/observations are on track or if I am missing some things (I'm sure I am!) This is just an exercise in type as I know his color needs work. BTW That is just a stain on the back of his neck.

 

[Pathfinders]

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Originally Posted by Robert Blosl

what about before you wash your birds. Some folks ad something to the water while the birds are in the water while you are washing your white rocks. I use Frontline or Adams after the show.

Thanks for the posts. bob

I don't show whites, but I've been told that Tide with Bleach Alternative is the best thing to add to wash water to get stubborn yellowing out of the feathers. A friend who breeds white Silkies uses that and says it works great. A half capful right in the tub of water, and swish the bird around a bit - then, to the next bucket for rinsing - another bucket with a bit of white vinegar in it to remove any last traces of shampoo, then the last bucket - with a few drops of glycerin in it if wanted for shine.

Tide with Bleach Alternative was recommended to me by Matt Lhamon, a judge who works for P&G (who make it.) He says there's some voodoo that it does that actually changes how light is reflected from feathers after use (not sure exactly what, this was some time ago), and said he can tell at a glance when judging if a white bird has been washed using it, they're so bright.

 

[Pathfinders]

And when it comes to washing tubs, I like to use the Fortex Flexible Buckets. They have handles, so you can pick them up and empty them easily, and come in several sizes, so you can choose what you need for LF or bantam. I have three, one for washing, one for water with vinegar (to cut the soap) for first rinse, then one for plain water for last rinse.

Of course, my dream barn (modeled on Shelby Harrington's) has multiple laundry sinks, so I can wash birds assembly line style.

 

[thedragonlady]

Tide with Bleach Alternative was recommended to me by Matt Lhamon, a judge who works for P&G (who make it.) He says there's some voodoo that it does that actually changes how light is reflected from feathers after use (not sure exactly what, this was some time ago), and said he can tell at a glance when judging if a white bird has been washed using it, they're so bright.

What bothers me about all these tubs for washing is...What happens to the last bird in line, unless you dump all those tubs every time you wash a bird. Much easier to simply use running water.

It the medieval times ONE tub full of water was drawn, and heated for the whole family. Men washed first, then boys, then ladies and girls. Babies were last. YUCK ! That's where the saying, "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water ! " comes from. I'll stick to clean, running water, thanks !

 

[Lacy Blues]

I asked some folks in my poultry club about this just a couple of days ago. The recommendation was dog shampoo with permethrin, used as a dip. A capful or two in a five gallon bucket of water. Dip the bird up to the wattles. If you're washing before a show, then rinse the bird a couple of times. If you're treating for mites/lice don't rinse the bird. Just let it dry. The dip was preferred over dusting because you know which birds have been treated already - they are wet. Am getting ready to try it. Will let you know how it works.

Trying to imagine dunking my larger cockerels in a five gallon bucket. It would be a tight fit. Think I'll hunt down a slightly larger washtub for this operation.

From what I understand, if you're going to use a dip for dogs or cats, get one that is for cats as they lick themselves to groom, similar to a chicken preening its feathers. They're going to ingest a lot of that poison.

I would think some of those tall kitchen garbage cans, set in a frame to keep them stable, would work well and not require too much solution to get enough depth. Just a thought......

Like this 10 gallon commercial waste basket that Walmart.com sells (six for $30.) I would build a 2x3 frame to keep them from tipping over.






As most of you know, I am trying to break into breeding. I am also trying to educate myself on evaluating breeder fowl. Here is a pic of one of my cocks. Please critique him so I can see if my own thoughts/observations are on track or if I am missing some things (I'm sure I am!) This is just an exercise in type as I know his color needs work. BTW That is just a stain on the back of his neck.

This is a nice start for a silver campine. If you go to the CSU thread, where we study examples of birds being bred to the standard, we are getting ready to start on the Campine very soon. Your timing is fantastic. You'll get a great conversation going over there... only wait until they are called for before posting.

Here's a link. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...-university-large-fowl-sop/1670#post_11732286

 

[aveca]

I asked some folks in my poultry club about this just a couple of days ago. The recommendation was dog shampoo with permethrin, used as a dip. A capful or two in a five gallon bucket of water. Dip the bird up to the wattles. If you're washing before a show, then rinse the bird a couple of times. If you're treating for mites/lice don't rinse the bird. Just let it dry. The dip was preferred over dusting because you know which birds have been treated already - they are wet. Am getting ready to try it. Will let you know how it works.

Trying to imagine dunking my larger cockerels in a five gallon bucket. It would be a tight fit. Think I'll hunt down a slightly larger washtub for this operation.

i just did this for the first time this year and loved it..so much easier than the dust flying everywhere..sprayed the woodwork in the barn in case anything hiding in the cracks..i only did the australop this way..it was fast and easy..you have to make sure the wings get wet through....used the powder on the big orps because it stays in there

 

[Yellow House Farm]

Tide with Bleach Alternative was recommended to me by Matt Lhamon, a judge who works for P&G (who make it.) He says there's some voodoo that it does that actually changes how light is reflected from feathers after use (not sure exactly what, this was some time ago), and said he can tell at a glance when judging if a white bird has been washed using it, they're so bright.

And there's no fear of burning the bird?

 

[aveca]

And when it comes to washing tubs, I like to use the Fortex Flexible Buckets. They have handles, so you can pick them up and empty them easily, and come in several sizes, so you can choose what you need for LF or bantam. I have three, one for washing, one for water with vinegar (to cut the soap) for first rinse, then one for plain water for last rinse.

Of course, my dream barn (modeled on Shelby Harrington's) has multiple laundry sinks, so I can wash birds assembly line style.

Love that! going to try it for sure....i had a freind send pics quite a while ago of a bird washed with an equine shampoo..called white magic from the rose collection..pretty dramatic befor and after too..sorry i no longer have the pics..