Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Extra Java]

Black Java also throw white sports and for some reason they are very large. This is one of my hens..."Large Marge".

 

[cbnovick]

Boy that is a hard nut to crack. My suggestions is to get the best blacks you can find. Be Patient look around for what Whites may be available if the type is crap you can cross the whites on the best female black and try to develop over time a white strain. I have no idea what is out there. What state do you live in?



Secretary/Treasurer - Bob Vaughn get a hold of this fellow or his wife. They can help you.
http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/media/Document_7.pdf

Bob, I believe Frank Reese Jr. has a group of White Jersey Giants he's got from true sports of his nice Blacks.

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[draye]

Boy that is a hard nut to crack. My suggestions is to get the best blacks you can find. Be Patient look around for what Whites may be available if the type is crap you can cross the whites on the best female black and try to develop over time a white strain. I have no idea what is out there. What state do you live in?



Secretary/Treasurer - Bob Vaughn get a hold of this fellow or his wife. They can help you.
http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/media/Document_7.pdf

I'm in Arkansas.

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/ contacted. Thanks so much.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Here is a receipt from a old time chicken man whose daddy and granddaddy use to raise two hundred roosters per year in the old days.
Mix one gallon of water and crush eight to ten garlic cloves heat on stove and get near a boil. Strain water put in gallon jug and gives a cup or pint of water to your birds for a day to worm them.

Next mix one gallon of water with 3 oz of Apple Cider Vinegar give to your birds do the same the next day. Just enough water that they drink it for say eight to twelve hours when they want it.

As a tonic boost put a cup of water on the wire and ad three to four drops of Aunt Martha’s Bluing to the water not much. He said that will make them kick up a step. Don’t know what this does unless it cleans them out. Asked them if they needed Yogurt after this Treatment he said we don’t do that stuff they are chickens.

Worked for about fifty years for his family and I he still uses on his chickens. He is my partner in Red Bantams one heck of a chicken breeder. Can take a breed that is run down and in five years get them back to the level that someone got from a good breeder but screwed them up. I have seen him do it with three different breeds in Ten years.

For it is worth department on Worming. Thanks for all the suggestions.
See if I can come up with something else to learn about.

Found some great baby aby chick boxes last night to ship out ten started chicks. Might locate these for you and maybe when you start sharing your birds with the new lurkers this year you could use them.
I will enplane how easy and safe it is on you for shipping and the baby chicks will arrive safe and sound. Every buddy will be winners mostly the newbie’s who want the rare breeds we have to offer to them.

http://www.myfortune3cart.com/Shop@Horizon/USPS_Shippers-Baby_Chick_Boxes.html

Quail shipper in carton of 15
has filters about $10 each and free shipping worth $5 dollars right there has filters glued in which you will have to have on week to ten day old
baby chicks less than three days old don't need filters but that is to young to ship in my view better to wait till they are older. This is what I think I am going with. Mr. Weaver this would work perfect for your White Rock Orders that are Coming in. bob
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[chickadoodles]

What about a dog crate? They come in all sizes.

 

[3riverschick]

Quote: No way to put filters over the windows on a pet crate. Under 72 hours old, the boxes don't need them.
Over 72 hours, need filters on the holes in the box. In http://www.boxesforbirds.com ,
the filters are replaceable. Don't know about other brands.
Best,
Karen

 

[thedragonlady]

So where does a guy like me who lives in Mobile Alabama area send his stole specimens for testing. I have never heard this before from cockers or breeders. They just give them some worming medications in the water or stick a pill down their throat or a shot of water with a one cc of dope in it and its a done deal. I look forward to your reply. Its for a new guy I never wormed my chickens in 25 years. bob

Any dog or cat vet can run a fecal for you Bob. The difference in young birds who are properly wormed is amazing, when compared to birds who have not been wormed. I worm my youngsters by the calendar. The older birds I run fecals on myself. I alternate using Safeguard, and Valbazan on those. I do not like Ivermectin. The tolerance is a very narrow one, and it gets few parasites.

 

[thedragonlady]

I occasionally use Wazine as a secondary wormer, but my birds primarily free range and are only cooped at night....in 8+ yrs I have not seen a "visible" worm

You won't see them unless your birds are really infested. Wazine only gets roundworms. Have a fecal run for $10. You might be surprised.

 

[Pathfinders]

The difference in young birds who are properly wormed is amazing, when compared to birds who have not been wormed. I worm my youngsters by the calendar.

At what age do you worm? How do you follow the calendar?

Just curious what others do...

 

[RedRidge]

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Originally Posted by Robert Blosl


I am with you Bob... I have never wormed... have never felt the need to.
I have had fecals run (any vet will do it) when I am curious.
Dewormers are creating a lot of resistance problems and worming indiscriminately further exacerbates these problems.
If I ever did have to deworm poultry, I would treat them just like my sheep and cattle... they would be immediately culled.
I breed for parasite resistance (I live in the southeast after all, where parasites are a huge problem for many) and will deworm an animal when necessary, but that animal does not remain in my flock/herd. There are NO exceptions.
YES, all animals have parasites... it's how they handle the parasite load they have that is important.
My opinion is that chickens, like all other livestock, will handle parasite loads just fine and be at peak health and condition when they are existing in optimal conditions with optimal nutrition.
Sometimes these conditions are out of our control (such as a severe rainy season), but none the less, when conditions are optimal they should be able to handle parasites and maintain a low fecal count and excellent conditioning.
With our extreme rain levels this year I was worried about cocci since I had SO many chicks. I dodged that bullet... part luck, and part planning.

Been there, done that with regular deworming... costly, develops resistance problems, time consuming, and "can" be a crutch for less than ideal management.
Prevention is the key... my cattle and sheep have not be dewormed in 3 years... I have never dewormed poultry...