Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[AletaG]

I do not buy all of these natural recipes. Never seen a proof that they were effective. It doesn't make any difference to me what compound might be in what. Generally stomach acid is not very friendly to them. Maybe you can isolate the compound and inject it directly into the bloodstream. Who knows. Maybe I am the fool. Heck, dish soap is pretty cheap.

Hey there! That last line has it right. If you aren't worried about losses, you can afford to test some of these things out yourself. I just use logic first. Like in this case, just like the "sticker-spreader" farmers use to keep insecticides and whatnot on the leaves of their crops long enough to do the job ("sticker-spreader" is always some sort of soap, lots of diff. kinds), the soap messes with the protective covering on the intestinal worm. Then either the stomach acid or antibiotic or natural deterrent can get to work. Ok. Now if a chicken will just get a case of intestinal worms, I'll give it a go! I know it works for others, and it sure won't HURT the animal, so...

Ever since I left the plant pathology lab to become a SAH mommy, I've missed experimentation, so here. we. go!

 

[draye]

Hello,
I'm looking for a breeder of Heritage White Jersey Giants? Not really quite ready for them yet but would like to have names ready and see pictures of the breeder stock if available. I'm looking at maybe getting some next year. I've just got my Black Jersey Giants this past Saturday (8-24-2013) and really love them, so big. They originated from Maria's Jersey Giants. If they turn out like I think I will be wanting some Whites.

Thanks,
Randy

 

[Robert Blosl]

Boy that is a hard nut to crack. My suggestions is to get the best blacks you can find. Be Patient look around for what Whites may be available if the type is crap you can cross the whites on the best female black and try to develop over time a white strain. I have no idea what is out there. What state do you live in?



Secretary/Treasurer - Bob Vaughn get a hold of this fellow or his wife. They can help you.
http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/media/Document_7.pdf

 

[Samuel Shirley]

Hi, I have a feed question. I went to the feed store and when getting my feed noticed the game bird feed. It was ranked at 23% protien. I was wondering if this would be used as a sole ration feed for my show layers or just to get your medium sized birds up to show size like a pullet developer. I currently use the basic chick starter 23% protien for my chicks up to a month or two and then switch to big gains pullet developer ranked at 16% protien and once they start laying I switch to big gains basic 16% layer ration. Should I switch to the game bird feed what would I use it for? Any ideas would be appreciated thanks, Sam.

 

[Extra Java]

The wormwood plant contains a number of chemical ingredients such as azeulenes, sesquiterpene lactones and thujone. It's been used as a wormer since the beginning of time. It is a plant... have you ever tasted it???

It does NOT kill worms, the worms simply would rather leave their host rather than suck their blood.

As for copper sulfate. It's also a very potent and effective mineral used to worm livestock. The form I recommended was easily dissolved in water. Any parasite is known to prefer a copper deficient host. There was a study done in Japan many years ago showing darker haired, people and animals require more copper in their diets. An example is that I have dark complected goats that require more far more copper than a pink skinned white Saanen. This is no wives tale it's a fact. If I don't give my goat far more copper than a white Saanen they will DIE of copper deficiency fed the same as my Saanens. It's just an added bonus that it worms them at the same time. Which is why I do my own fecal exams.

By the way, lay a copper rod in your garden and snails & slugs wont cross it. Sprinkle copper in your garden and it will kill your plants. "Root Killer" is copper sulfate. It will also keep the algae out of your water buckets if you are on a well. Etc. ...

I would not take acidified copper sulfate to deter mosquitos on a person. There are copper supplements for people or you can use elemental sulfur powder (not granules).
If you want to get rid of mites and lice dust your birds down with elemental sulfur powder.
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/2470/novel-control-of-fowl-mites
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/613628/sulfur-powder-against-lice-mites

Again, my goats constant need for proper minerals being in continual balance and the mineral deficient desert I live in have taught me how to properly use minerals in their elemental forms or I loose livestock. The majority of vets don't know how to use minerals only chemicals. Luck for me my mentor lives in New Zealand and has been an expert for over 40 years with thousands of sheep and goats the use of minerals and keeping healthy animals is very cost effective compared to chemical treatments.

Please don't bash people when they take time to share on this forum.

 

[catdaddyfro]

The sulfur powder works well on dogs with sarcoptic mange(mites) folks wear copper bracelets to ward of crites too I have one but it turns this pasty, pale red headed skin green LOL One would think the native Americans might have used this to keep the redbugs(for notherners these are chiggers) from eating their rumps up I don't know how a person could traipse around through these woods here without something they would be raw and scarred to the bone without some sort of deterrent.

Jeff

 

[AletaG]

delisha shared her lovely english orpington with us... Just me, but if this is a juvenile, think what a looker he'll be when grown:

I'm not really an Orp. person, but wow. Looks like delisha might be someone to talk to if you like English heritage Large fowl.
'nite
Edit: apparently her stock came from http://www.rockin-g-ranch.com/TheFancyChick.html

 

[Extra Java]

Jeff,

Your signature....
LOL

"Always! always treat sweaty eggs with the same respect as a stick of TNT of the same nature, or the end results could potentially be disastrous"

 

[catdaddyfro]

LOL yeah I always try to link my philosophical quotes with some of my life time experiences if I can LOL

Jeff

 

[AletaG]

Boy that is a hard nut to crack. My suggestions is to get the best blacks you can find. Be Patient look around for what Whites may be available if the type is crap you can cross the whites on the best female black and try to develop over time a white strain. I have no idea what is out there. What state do you live in?
Secretary/Treasurer - Bob Vaughn get a hold of this fellow or his wife. They can help you.
http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/media/Document_7.pdf

http://nationaljerseygiantclub.com/index.cfm/pageid/12

Oooh, isn't the history interesting... So whites developed from sports of the black, and the black was developed from breeding 3 different black breeds - Black Javas, Black Langshans, and Dark Brahmas- together over time. And it sounds like outcrossing not really an option, been done, didn't work?
Sounds like a KathyInMo project... dive deep into whatever records of the original are there, and start with W Java, W Langshan, Light Brahma? OMG I wish I'd known about chickens when I was in HS. Would have gone in a totally different direction! So much fun to be had! And no, I can't nominate myself, I don't have space. But if I did, I'd just HAVE to try... Where's the White Jersey Whale! Ahoy, Ahab's off again... !