Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Robert Blosl]

http://books.google.com/books?id=8klPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT154&dq=The+mating+and+breeding+of+poultry&hl=en&ei=jSI5TZuYCoGclge75-j7Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=The%20mating%20and%20breeding%20of%20poultry&f=false

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partridge Plymouth rocks
http://books.google.com/books?id=HH...&q=The mating and breeding of poultry&f=false

I K Feltch was considered the father of Poultry Husbandry a great large fowl breeder, fantastic judge and wrote this great book. He also is the person who drew up the line breeding chart that we have talked about.

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924003076910#page/n63/mode/2up

juding your Chickens I talk about it and they use to do this in the old days.

Was looking through the old books. The library at Mann in New York is loaded with old poutlry books looks like the are putting some of them on line for us to read. What a blessing. I tried to get some of these books on Libary loan and they would not let me have any. Do you know if want a book if you got the title, author ect you can go to your local library and get these books sent to your library for free or maybe a $1.

Nice to see some of the plymouth rock magazines on line to read. bob

 

[buffalogal]

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It *is* a blessing. I remember having to sit in the library to read the little book called "The Call of the Hen" because it was on interlibrary loan and was considered a reference so it was not to leave the building. Every day I would hand it back and the librarian would make a big deal of having me wait while she went through it from cover to cover to make sure I hadn't stolen any pages.

This was back before copy machines (only Xerox, remember that smelly blue ink?) I remember how excited I was when I found Amazon and Bibliofind and Powells and realized there were people out there who would *sell* those old books. Now it's even better, so many are online and FREE to download.

 

[jenjscott]

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Wonderful article, Charlie, now I can look at those pictures to try and fix an image for the color of the barred hollands. I am still trying to understand what the mechanism is that this type of barring results from the crossing of these breeds.

Now my next question is in the quote that is always found online about the breeding of the hollands, the bird from holland is mentioned in the breeding of the white hollands, but it is not mentioned in the cross for the barred holland. I have seen some people add it in, but haven't been able to find a source that includes it.

 

[Robert Blosl]

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It *is* a blessing. I remember having to sit in the library to read the little book called "The Call of the Hen" because it was on interlibrary loan and was considered a reference so it was not to leave the building. Every day I would hand it back and the librarian would make a big deal of having me wait while she went through it from cover to cover to make sure I hadn't stolen any pages.

This was back before copy machines (only Xerox, remember that smelly blue ink?) I remember how excited I was when I found Amazon and Bibliofind and Powells and realized there were people out there who would *sell* those old books. Now it's even better, so many are online and FREE to download.

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924003144031#page/n9/mode/2up

Yes this was one of my favorite books that Paul Hogan wrote and not many people give him credit for his work. The project with the Buckeyes with Don Shrider in North Carolina for a few years was based on this book. Jamie Duckworth who was one of the top breeders in this project uses this method to build the frame on his barred rock large fowl. If people would use this method with any current large fowl that needs breeding up like the rare breeds that score 90 points now that are all breed out of type and color they could make big strides in the coming years.

Today we can type the name of the author or the book into our goggle search engin and find a book and read it. More than ever befor. What a blessing for the Poutlry Learning student. With these new methods we should see more breeders taking on rare breeds and having success. If they can find the books there passion will take them to the limits. I was going to work yesterday and heard the song.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven/63a5270e49182250a93f63a5270e49182250a93f-317030858998?q=stairway%20to%20heaven


I was going to work yesterday and heard the song on the radio .

StairWay to Heven by Led Zepplin. When I hear this song I think of Mrs. Donald Donaldson who had the great Rhode Island Reds in the 1950s to 60s.


When I went out to Seattle Washington about 25 years ago to visit my parents I went to a chicken show at Chealis Washington the first one I had been to in twenty years. I meet a guy named Bruce Merdock who had been to my child hood friends home Bill Winger in Auburn Washington. He said Bob you got to go and see the Reds Bill has from Mr. Reese. I said Bill are they any good. Are they like the ones we had twenty years ago. He said you just got to go there. So we left two hours befor my flight left out of Seattle and got to Bills house and I went loose looking for the Big Large Fowl Reds. I thought in my mind I was going to see scrubs or bleached out hatchery chickens. As I sat down on the corner of a pen there was 25 of the most dark brick shaped Rhode Island Reds I ever saw. They where chicks he got from Mr. Reese who had Mrs. Donald Donaldsons birds. In a radio coming from the car I was riding in the song Stair Way to Heven came on and I thought about her. I did not think she was alive but I was so glad that someone took her great strain of chickens and kept them the way she had them. Little did I know in three years I would have them on my farm and I would be breeding this Heritage strain of Poultry. Today I have her large fowl in a bantam and there are a few who have her blood lines with many on Deck who want to take them on this year and the next.

She is in Red Heven with all the other great Chicken people. One of the Greatest lady poultry breeders in history. Cut from the same cloth as E B Thompson.

May we continue to learn from this thread.

bob

 

[CharlieVoda]

My 2 cents worth I would go by the APA standard for the breeds used to make the Barred Holland.
If you are really into the genetics I would contact Gary Underwood, Shannon Higgins or you can find Henk69 here
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4879861#p4879861
I read everything I could find on breeding Dominque and had good luck with standard bred Barred H.
My foundation stock was from Urch he has had Barred H for about 15 or 20 years.

Good luck with the birds
Charlie

 

[buffalogal]

Kathy, I wanted to say thanks for posting the great pictures. I dearly love seeing the different set up, especially the coops. What magazine(s) are they from?

 

[kathyinmo]

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I gave been reading through quite a few of them. Some are:
International Plymouth Rock Journal
Reliable Poultry Journal
Poultry Success
National Poultry Magazine

 

[Chickielady]

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Awesome Kathy !

 

[Chickielady]

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It *is* a blessing. I remember having to sit in the library to read the little book called "The Call of the Hen" because it was on interlibrary loan and was considered a reference so it was not to leave the building. Every day I would hand it back and the librarian would make a big deal of having me wait while she went through it from cover to cover to make sure I hadn't stolen any pages.

This was back before copy machines (only Xerox, remember that smelly blue ink?) I remember how excited I was when I found Amazon and Bibliofind and Powells and realized there were people out there who would *sell* those old books. Now it's even better, so many are online and FREE to download.

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924003144031#page/n9/mode/2up

Yes this was one of my favorite books that Paul Hogan wrote and not many people give him credit for his work. The project with the Buckeyes with Don Shrider in North Carolina for a few years was based on this book. Jamie Duckworth who was one of the top breeders in this project uses this method to build the frame on his barred rock large fowl. If people would use this method with any current large fowl that needs breeding up like the rare breeds that score 90 points now that are all breed out of type and color they could make big strides in the coming years.

Today we can type the name of the author or the book into our goggle search engin and find a book and read it. More than ever befor. What a blessing for the Poutlry Learning student. With these new methods we should see more breeders taking on rare breeds and having success. If they can find the books there passion will take them to the limits. I was going to work yesterday and heard the song.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven/63a5270e49182250a93f63a5270e49182250a93f-317030858998?q=stairway%20to%20heaven


I was going to work yesterday and heard the song on the radio .

StairWay to Heven by Led Zepplin. When I hear this song I think of Mrs. Donald Donaldson who had the great Rhode Island Reds in the 1950s to 60s.


When I went out to Seattle Washington about 25 years ago to visit my parents I went to a chicken show at Chealis Washington the first one I had been to in twenty years. I meet a guy named Bruce Merdock who had been to my child hood friends home Bill Winger in Auburn Washington. He said Bob you got to go and see the Reds Bill has from Mr. Reese. I said Bill are they any good. Are they like the ones we had twenty years ago. He said you just got to go there. So we left two hours befor my flight left out of Seattle and got to Bills house and I went loose looking for the Big Large Fowl Reds. I thought in my mind I was going to see scrubs or bleached out hatchery chickens. As I sat down on the corner of a pen there was 25 of the most dark brick shaped Rhode Island Reds I ever saw. They where chicks he got from Mr. Reese who had Mrs. Donald Donaldsons birds. In a radio coming from the car I was riding in the song Stair Way to Heven came on and I thought about her. I did not think she was alive but I was so glad that someone took her great strain of chickens and kept them the way she had them. Little did I know in three years I would have them on my farm and I would be breeding this Heritage strain of Poultry. Today I have her large fowl in a bantam and there are a few who have her blood lines with many on Deck who want to take them on this year and the next.

She is in Red Heven with all the other great Chicken people. One of the Greatest lady poultry breeders in history. Cut from the same cloth as E B Thompson.

May we continue to learn from this thread.

bob

Fantastic story Robert ! Wish you could come out for another show coming up in 2 months ...

 

[kathyinmo]

Can you imagine refusing $5,000. for a single chicken? It must have been like a million dollars is today.