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I think that they may have be out-crossed to a Malay (or other Oriental breed) That would account for the tall upright stance.
The R.I. White should be built like a R.I. Red and more longer than they are tall here is a sketch of a red but you get the idea.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg
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Chris thanks for finding this picture. Tim Jurgeons and I put this togeather about ten years ago. These are figures I measured from my Rhode Island reds. First of a Rhode Island Chicken is to be plum. That is his legs are dead center if he puts one leg up in the air and stands on one leg he is still plum or level. When the bird is walking around the yard visulize the male with a coffie cup on his back he can walk around and the cup will not tilt. He stands level and he walks level all the time unless he sees a dog or a hawk in the shy he may raise up.
This is called station. The male should be 24 inches from the tip of his comb to the ground and about the same from the end of his beak to the end of his tail. You want t good lenth from the neck to the oil gland a flat top line. Look at the pictures in the poutlr press on the R I Red bantmas. Look at thier backs and notice the lift in the mid back. We call these red rocks. They should be flat all the time on the middle of thier back.
This male shows a tilt i call this a Minorica tilt. I had this about five years ago in my bantams and took me three years to breed it out. The old time red folks called these reds rainy day reds.
Never saw a R I White befor. Most of them are sold from hatcheriyes have wyandotte for the comb and prodution white rock for the shape.
I think a good strain of white rock large fowl with low back top lines could be crossed say on this male and then breed the best sons with rose combs back to the white rock hens and in threee years you would have a good type bird. Feather quality is important on a Rhode Island it needs to be tight non loose that is where you get that from the wyandotte cross.
He has a very nice head. bob
I think that they may have be out-crossed to a Malay (or other Oriental breed) That would account for the tall upright stance.
The R.I. White should be built like a R.I. Red and more longer than they are tall here is a sketch of a red but you get the idea.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg
Chris
Chris thanks for finding this picture. Tim Jurgeons and I put this togeather about ten years ago. These are figures I measured from my Rhode Island reds. First of a Rhode Island Chicken is to be plum. That is his legs are dead center if he puts one leg up in the air and stands on one leg he is still plum or level. When the bird is walking around the yard visulize the male with a coffie cup on his back he can walk around and the cup will not tilt. He stands level and he walks level all the time unless he sees a dog or a hawk in the shy he may raise up.
This is called station. The male should be 24 inches from the tip of his comb to the ground and about the same from the end of his beak to the end of his tail. You want t good lenth from the neck to the oil gland a flat top line. Look at the pictures in the poutlr press on the R I Red bantmas. Look at thier backs and notice the lift in the mid back. We call these red rocks. They should be flat all the time on the middle of thier back.
This male shows a tilt i call this a Minorica tilt. I had this about five years ago in my bantams and took me three years to breed it out. The old time red folks called these reds rainy day reds.
Never saw a R I White befor. Most of them are sold from hatcheriyes have wyandotte for the comb and prodution white rock for the shape.
I think a good strain of white rock large fowl with low back top lines could be crossed say on this male and then breed the best sons with rose combs back to the white rock hens and in threee years you would have a good type bird. Feather quality is important on a Rhode Island it needs to be tight non loose that is where you get that from the wyandotte cross.
He has a very nice head. bob
have to agree with punky, that was a good article 'tips on breeding' in backyard poultry magazine. point number 5 on using a larger hen to increase the size and only trying to accomplish one or two things a year, i really agree with. i really need to join the sppa too
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Which issue of BYP was Saladin's "tips on breeding" article in?
Here's some pictures of my buff leghorn flock. These were taken as soon as I got them home, still kinda nervous about their new surroundings. Their lobes are yellower because he has been feeding them corn since all the snow he said as well. Cant wait to work on breeding these and getting more numbers out there.
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has the RIW had dedicated breeders like RIR? I don't think so they are a work in progress and are getting there
But what breed in the Whites background is going to give you that upright stance? (Cochin, Wyandotte or Leghorn)
Chris
For what it is worth none of those breeds will give the upright stance. The main difference between the Whites and Reds that I have found is that the Whites are a little less docile in temperament and I attributed this to the Leghorn in them.
I bred Rhode Island Whites for 7 years. My stock came from Duane Urch. That rooster either has something crossed into him or is not healthy in some way if he is usually upright as he is in the picture.
A standard bred Rhode Island White that is of a good blood line is going to look just like the picture Chris put up only with a rose comb and should be about an inch shorter than a Single Comb Rhode Island Red. It should be 8 to 9 1/2 lbs at full grown.
My opinion as a former Rhode Island White breeder MOT appears to have something crossed in or may have gape worms which affect the windpipe or something else that is causing him to walk upright. He should not be walking upright like that all of the time. In fact he should look identical to a good a Rose Comb Rhode Island Red only white in color.
Good luck with the birds
Charlie
has the RIW had dedicated breeders like RIR? I don't think so they are a work in progress and are getting there
But what breed in the Whites background is going to give you that upright stance? (Cochin, Wyandotte or Leghorn)
Chris
For what it is worth none of those breeds will give the upright stance. The main difference between the Whites and Reds that I have found is that the Whites are a little less docile in temperament and I attributed this to the Leghorn in them.
I bred Rhode Island Whites for 7 years. My stock came from Duane Urch. That rooster either has something crossed into him or is not healthy in some way if he is usually upright as he is in the picture.
A standard bred Rhode Island White that is of a good blood line is going to look just like the picture Chris put up only with a rose comb and should be about an inch shorter than a Single Comb Rhode Island Red. It should be 8 to 9 1/2 lbs at full grown.
My opinion as a former Rhode Island White breeder MOT appears to have something crossed in or may have gape worms which affect the windpipe or something else that is causing him to walk upright. He should not be walking upright like that all of the time. In fact he should look identical to a good a Rose Comb Rhode Island Red only white in color.
Good luck with the birds
Charlie
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Very nice Birds thanks for the great pictures.
Good luck with the birds
Charlie
Very nice Birds thanks for the great pictures.
Good luck with the birds
Charlie
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