Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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My Father used to raise rice in Arkansas and he was out in the rice patties in the fall scaring away the blackbirds with his 22 all the time trying to keep the birds from eaing his crop.

 

[lildinkem]

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I did see this at your link, but there is no source for this theory. If you have ever opened a crop, you would see that there is very little liquid in there. The crop grinds the food and starts the digestive process in birds. By the time the grain gets to the "little tummies" it is a ground up pulp and moisture content would not be significant and any swelling would not produce enough energy to rupture the stomach, let alone the bird. But hey, if it scares away your birds, go for it.

It is funny how WIKI points out your source is being backed by RICE GROWERS makes me think, as a 3 year debater at IU, think of the saying, look at the credibility of your source. Do you think the Rice GROWERS have any say in whether their product is safe for small wild birds to eat? Again it IS DRIED RICE not a field of growing rice.
Besides what my mentors Grandps said he did a 130 years ago as an option. I choose to believe the Ole Wise man. He is not a RICE GROWER.

ALSO if there is very liquid in the crop and it passes to the stomach, what happens then when the DRIED RICE finally get some moisture? It EXPANDS! So your proving my point even more. Thank you.

 

[spartacus_63]

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I did see this at your link, but there is no source for this theory. If you have ever opened a crop, you would see that there is very little liquid in there. The crop grinds the food and starts the digestive process in birds. By the time the grain gets to the "little tummies" it is a ground up pulp and moisture content would not be significant and any swelling would not produce enough energy to rupture the stomach, let alone the bird. But hey, if it scares away your birds, go for it.

It is funny how WIKI points out your source is being backed by RICE GROWERS makes me think, as a 3 year debater at IU, think of the saying, look at the credibility of your source. Do you think the Rice GROWERS have any say in whether their product is safe for small wild birds to eat? Again it IS DRIED RICE not a field of growing rice.
Besides what my mentors Grandps said he did a 130 years ago as an option. I choose to believe the Ole Wise man. He is not a RICE GROWER.

To each, their own. I'm sure the birds will appreciate it and if they prefer rice to chicken feed, you might even come out ahead.

 

[lildinkem]

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It is funny how WIKI points out your source is being backed by RICE GROWERS makes me think, as a 3 year debater at IU, think of the saying, look at the credibility of your source. Do you think the Rice GROWERS have any say in whether their product is safe for small wild birds to eat? Again it IS DRIED RICE not a field of growing rice.
Besides what my mentors Grandps said he did a 130 years ago as an option. I choose to believe the Ole Wise man. He is not a RICE GROWER.

To each, their own. I'm sure the birds will appreciate it and if they prefer rice to chicken feed, you might even come out ahead.

Well I am not siting sources backed by RICE GROWERS. I am sure the RICE GROWERS of American appreciate your source. And I am sure that all the laws prohibiting the use of RICE at weddings has a reason to be made illegal. Those places where it is illegal, prolly don't have a vendetta against RICE GROWERS as their motive to make it illegal to use at weddings. Most likely a proveable scientific fact of causing harm to the environment as I read into more since you questioned my idea. It isn't my friends long gone dead Grandpa who made these laws. It is, as I read it, a harm to the environment. I wonder what part of the environment their talking about? Birds maybe?

 

[Chris09]

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Because it is a popular myth. Use rice to kill birds and you will have birds will crops full of rice, not dead birds. If you do not believe me, look it up:
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/birdrice.asp
A link to Snopes.

I did and they say birds with small digestive systems can not handle the expantion of DRIED RICE, not the rice found in the wild.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_dried_rice_kill_birds

Pigeons have a small digestive system and they use Rice in pigeon feed.

Contains: Small Yellow Corn, Canada Peas, Red Milo, Maple Peas, Oat Groats, Austrian Peas, White Kafir, Safflower, Vetch, White Millet, Red Millet, Canary Seed, Buckwheat, Rice.
http://www.purgrain.com/products-2010.html

http://www.jedds.com/-strse-Diet->>-Seed-&-Grain-Mixtures-cln-Rice-Seeds/Categories.bok

Chris

 

[lildinkem]

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I did and they say birds with small digestive systems can not handle the expantion of DRIED RICE, not the rice found in the wild.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_dried_rice_kill_birds

Pigeons have a small digestive system and they use Rice in pigeon feed.

Contains: Small Yellow Corn, Canada Peas, Red Milo, Maple Peas, Oat Groats, Austrian Peas, White Kafir, Safflower, Vetch, White Millet, Red Millet, Canary Seed, Buckwheat, Rice.
http://www.purgrain.com/products-2010.html

http://www.jedds.com/-strse-Diet->>-Seed-&-Grain-Mixtures-cln-Rice-Seeds/Categories.bok

Chris

Their feed is 100% DRIED RICE right? The same stuff you can not use at weddings?
Not ground?
IF you read WIKI they say using bird feed is now acceptable at weddings. And Pigeon feed is BIRD FEED.

 

[Chris09]

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Pigeons have a small digestive system and they use Rice in pigeon feed.

Contains: Small Yellow Corn, Canada Peas, Red Milo, Maple Peas, Oat Groats, Austrian Peas, White Kafir, Safflower, Vetch, White Millet, Red Millet, Canary Seed, Buckwheat, Rice.
http://www.purgrain.com/products-2010.html

http://www.jedds.com/-strse-Diet->>-Seed-&-Grain-Mixtures-cln-Rice-Seeds/Categories.bok

Chris

Their feed is 100% DRIED RICE right? The same stuff you can not use at weddings?
Not ground?
IF you read WIKI they say using bird feed is now acceptable at weddings. And Pigeon feed is BIRD FEED.

No grain is 100% dried and there is a percentage of moisture in all grains.
The rice that is used in Pigeon feed whole (un-ground), pigeons cant handle dusty feeds.
I have been using whole grain pigeon feed in my poultry mix for years, it is super cleaned (no dust) and very good quality grains.

And Pigeon feed is BIRD FEED.

Pigeon feed is as close to bird seed as chicken feed is to bird seed.

Just a side note there is more research done on feed for Racing homers than chicken feed.

Chris​

 

[lildinkem]

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Their feed is 100% DRIED RICE right? The same stuff you can not use at weddings?
Not ground?
IF you read WIKI they say using bird feed is now acceptable at weddings. And Pigeon feed is BIRD FEED.

No grain is 100% dried and there is a percentage of moisture in all grains.
The rice that is used in Pigeon feed whole (un-ground), pigeons cant handle dusty feeds.
I have been using whole grain pigeon feed in my poultry mix for years, it is super cleaned (no dust) and very good quality grains.

Chris

I am willing to try anything to keep these birds away from my birds. They carry parasites disease. DRIED RICE takes longer to digest. It seems to keep them away from my birds. IF you have any other ideas I am open?

 

[Chris09]

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No grain is 100% dried and there is a percentage of moisture in all grains.
The rice that is used in Pigeon feed whole (un-ground), pigeons cant handle dusty feeds.
I have been using whole grain pigeon feed in my poultry mix for years, it is super cleaned (no dust) and very good quality grains.

Chris

I am willing to try anything to keep these birds away from my birds. T

You have a PM.

Chris

 

[junglebird]

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Just how bad is whatever these wild birds might be carrying?

My birds free range, and are exposed to wild birds and ground that wild turkey has grazed. We have a healthy winter population of birds that were attracted by the Madrone berries in early in the season.

Building disease resistance is one reason I'm interested in breeding my own stock. I'm under the assumption that breeding the hardiest of my birds, that thrive on this particular piece of the earth, will build a flock of chickens with acceptable tolerances of native pathogens. Am I right?