Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Mixing with start and grow will pull down your protein percentage, but that would certainly be better than plain start and grow. If you were really wanting to keep that protein up for the first few weeks, you could figure a preventative dose of amprollium to go in the water. It's not too hard unless you're hooked up to a watering system.

Even if the early hatching didn't produce better chickens, they are going to be several months older than many others, and that maturity is a definite advantage in the show cage.

I scored in the shopping at Crossroads, and brought home a tom and hen Beltsville to go with the one young hen I have, and I got my cotton patch geese I have been wanting (2 pair). I also got a nice Buckeye cockerel from Don Schrieder (sp?) to replace the one I lost this summer.
 
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I heard the same thing Jim in regards to Rocks....I have 2 dozen in the incubator now, lights on in the coop and almost ready to set breeding pens

I think the logic is that the birds will spend more time eating to stay warm than in Spring and Summer. Feed consumption is down in the Summer as the birds are trying to stay cool....just what I've heard. I'm still too new at this to say with any authority

Feed intake is something I have been watching closely. When it gets cold, feed intake can nearly triple with my exposed birds. Even wind causes increases in feed intake. Once temperatures drop below 50 F, the free-ranging birds start finding sunny places and avoid wind.​
 
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Cheryl, I picked up a brochure at the Purina table at Crossroads about "Honor Show Chow Turkey Starter". It has a medicated option of Amprolium (.0123 %) and BMD (Bacitracin Methylene Disalicylate - 50 grams per ton).
Benefits listed are:
-Aids in the prevention of coccidiosis
-For increased weight and improved feed efficiency
-No withdrawal time required

Crude protein 30%

If you already use Purina products, ask about this one.

edited cuz I can't spell!
 
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Every year I consider giving my chicks medicated feed. I never have had a problem with cocci. Have you guys ever had the problem? I have raised up quite a few chicks, and have never seen this with my birds. I had around eighty chicks last year, and if I remember correctly I loss two for unknown reasons. It might have been three. I have never put them on wire until they were four weeks and feathering out. They are put on the ground at eight weeks. I put my new Barred Rocks on the ground at ten weeks. Do you think that it is just a matter of time before I see it?
As far as the higher protein feed, when do you drop the protein content? I don't want to feed them something "too hot", for too long. I fed one group with 20% last year till 12 wks. Another with 24 % for eight, then 20% till 16 wks. I did each group differently knowing that they feathered out and grew out differently. I do not have a feel for what is too much for too long yet. Especially when they are getting to range. 30% seams to be pushing it, unless they are free range. It seams some of these breeds need some time to put on a good frame. I would like to know what others have been succesful with.
Scott, I am wanting to get an early start this year. As much to get a good start before the heat sets in as anything. Some of these large fowl breeds need that time to be ready for the fall shows though. Scott do you have a heated outbuilding? I am trying to get a feel for what my practical limitations are. I have never had chicks earlier than March. If I go any earlier, I might have to rethink how I have been doing it, but maybe not. I lost a croc one winter, due to losing power to his "green house". I would hate to lose power or bulbs go out while I am not around. Has anyone used gas brooders?
 
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I agree that 30% protein is too much (some breeders call it "too hot") I feed a 25% chick starter with coccidiostat as I fight it badly here.

I do not have a heated out building. My brooders are set up with a tandem set of bulbs, wired together. In the second buld socket I have a "day light to dark" photo eye with a backup bulb in it. If the first bulb goes out, it becomes dark, thus activating the second bulb. Only problem is a complete power failure and we dont have that often here.

Hope that helps
 
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Cheryl, I picked up a brochure at the Purina table at Crossroads about "Honor Show Chow Turkey Starter". It has a medicated option of Amprolium (.0123 %) and BMD (Bacitracin Methylene Disalicylate - 50 grams per ton).
Benefits listed are:
-Aids in the prevention of coccidiosis
-For increased weight and improved feed efficiency
-No withdrawal time required

Crude protein 30%

If you already use Purina products, ask about this one.

edited cuz I can't spell!

Weren't you the lady going around and bothering folks at our booth at Crossroads?

Wsa good to meet and visit with you!
 
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I agree that 30% protein is too much (some breeders call it "too hot") I feed a 25% chick starter with coccidiostat as I fight it badly here.

I do not have a heated out building. My brooders are set up with a tandem set of bulbs, wired together. In the second buld socket I have a "day light to dark" photo eye with a backup bulb in it. If the first bulb goes out, it becomes dark, thus activating the second bulb. Only problem is a complete power failure and we dont have that often here.

Hope that helps

I may check on that Purina feed. We are already cutting ours with sweet feed to save money on feed cost. Speaking of feed cost, we ahve a poll going at https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=592220 on cost of feed.​
 
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