Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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quote: Robert Blosl

Double mating is something I have never had to do. A friend of mine who is breeding Colombian Plymouth Rocks has been talking about a fellow who is a super star Light Brahma breeder. In order for his to get good males and good females he has to double mate them. That is males for the female line may have different colors or excess colors to produce a female line then a male line. Its a shame really as you have to have two more lines of one breed to produce good birds. Also, when you buy birds from this guy if you dont know how to breed them like he does you will go backwards. If you can breed your Blues single mating system that is fantastic. I liked our female. bob

These are our master breeders of the future to keep this old breed going. Many of the old breeds are improving and looking true to the standard. That's all a hobbyist can hope for. I hope we can help people with the new breeds they get just maintain some normally shape and color with out going to school and get a Master Degree in Poultry Science to raise them. This is suppose to be a fun hobby and not a job. When its not fun and you don't enjoy your chickens you will leave the hobby or any hobby you may take on.

heres some quotes/points from Bob this morning I found that backs up what he's been preaching for a few weeks as of late. KISS (keep it sweet and simple)

To me there is a fine line between breeding for show birds and reg. heritage dual purpose birds. Both should be bred towards the SOP as a goal, and you more than likely will have some show winners come from this action, but too just as in some of the phrases here reads, there are breeders that breed for show only(LOOKS) and I quote Walt here: a poultry show is nothing more than a "Beauty contest" I believe I got that right if not he WILL correct me for sure,LOL

I guess my point here is you can breed these type(heritage breeds) without going through all the extremes and still have nice birds and the fun part of doing it too, just as Bob said: "its for fun not a job". I don't for see me ever showing a bird myself but I'm going to breed my stock like they are supposed to be bred because I want them to be what they are supposed to be, that's why I have them, for my pleasure.

I don't know where I was going with all this or if I went anywhere; just random thoughts this morning running on 1 cup of coffee guess its better than a 2 cupper,

LOL

Jeff
 
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YES!!! Although Mr Walt seems so accomplished I bet he could go out and air brush it himself. Who better to be sure there are no flaws?

I have no artistic skills.

w.
 
quote: Robert Blosl


These are our master breeders of the future to keep this old breed going. Many of the old breeds are improving and looking true to the standard. That's all a hobbyist can hope for. I hope we can help people with the new breeds they get just maintain some normally shape and color with out going to school and get a Master Degree in Poultry Science to raise them. This is suppose to be a fun hobby and not a job. When its not fun and you don't enjoy your chickens you will leave the hobby or any hobby you may take on.
Without a doubt. Young(er) exhibitors are the wave of the future and we need to keep a steady flow coming. These are our Master Breeders of the future and are critical for the hobby to continue and the breeds to be around for the next generations to observe and enjoy. Anything we can do to get more interest from young people into the hobby then educate and foster them is great for our future.

I personally know several breeders that have achieved official Master Breeder status and it shows that hard work and dedication will definitely pay off. They are a tremendous and invaluable resource for all of us interested in raising and selectively breeding poultry. Obviously you don't need a degree in Poultry Science to achieve this level of respect, that comes from having a passion for something, hard work and total dedication to the hobby. However, there is a tremendous amount of proven scientific information that can be incorporated into rearing breeding poultry, whether it be raising 10 chickens in your backyard or 1,000. The biology and physiology of the chicken is the same in both of those situations. Now how those principles are implemented can differ, GREATLY in some instances; but the biology, physiology and genetics of the birds is the same.
 
Without a doubt. Young(er) exhibitors are the wave of the future and we need to keep a steady flow coming. These are our Master Breeders of the future and are critical for the hobby to continue and the breeds to be around for the next generations to observe and enjoy. Anything we can do to get more interest from young people into the hobby then educate and foster them is great for our future.

I personally know several breeders that have achieved official Master Breeder status and it shows that hard work and dedication will definitely pay off. They are a tremendous and invaluable resource for all of us interested in raising and selectively breeding poultry. Obviously you don't need a degree in Poultry Science to achieve this level of respect, that comes from having a passion for something, hard work and total dedication to the hobby. However, there is a tremendous amount of proven scientific information that can be incorporated into rearing breeding poultry, whether it be raising 10 chickens in your backyard or 1,000. The biology and physiology of the chicken is the same in both of those situations. Now how those principles are implemented can differ, GREATLY in some instances; but the biology, physiology and genetics of the birds is the same.

I wish your sentiments could better provide for those of us who do wish to learn. Finding the information or, better yet, earning an understudy relationship with someone who does know, is a tough thing to do. Its funny to have hard work and job not be related. I don't know that most of the young folks you are thinking of would even consider that something fun could be work. Or that work could be fun. I say this completely aware of how much I miss my job :) now that I stay home to work with chickens and have fun raising a baby! (or is it have fun raising chickens and work raising a baby...?)

You know Mr Walt, you might surprise yourself with an airgun.
 
Haha. I love your birds!

Thank you. It is the closest I can get to being artistic. The question was asked....why show? Shows are an art gallery of breeders accomplishments. There are many reasons why people show birds or anything else for that matter. When people see good examples of chickens, there is usually new interest created. Much like you experienced yourself when you saw a heritage show type Barred Rock for the first time. They are usually quite different birds than the average people sees. I know that for me showing has increased my knowledge of poultry and I find it relaxing, interesting, scientific and overall a hobby with many dimensions. I have two hobbies and they are both demanding and they overlap for only about one month out of the year. The chickens are all year, but the intense part for me is Oct-March during our show season here in the west. The results of a years work takes some time to see and is judged by subjective humans, the other hobby.....the competitive part anyway takes about 11-12 seconds and is decided by GPS and timing lights, so it is not subjective at all and the results are in in seconds. These two hobbies have served me well through the years and take c
are of a lot of potential problems as idle hands are the devils workshop....................lol

Walt
 
I wish your sentiments could better provide for those of us who do wish to learn. Finding the information or, better yet, earning an understudy relationship with someone who does know, is a tough thing to do. Its funny to have hard work and job not be related. I don't know that most of the young folks you are thinking of would even consider that something fun could be work. Or that work could be fun. I say this completely aware of how much I miss my job :) now that I stay home to work with chickens and have fun raising a baby! (or is it have fun raising chickens and work raising a baby...?)

You know Mr Walt, you might surprise yourself with an airgun.

Not sure what you mean, but I have two.

w.
 
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