Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[rodriguezpoultry]

Awesome!!!!  Let me know when you get back.  You might need to come and critique my birds.

Any time Bentley!

Jon, ferrets are awesome!

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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Any chance you are going to have any of your Langshans at Newnan next month? I would love to see some of your birds in person.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

I would, but we will be in the middle of moving and keeping our budget close to home. I don't think we will be able to go to any more shows until after we move!

 

[BarnGoddess01]

I would, but we will be in the middle of moving and keeping our budget close to home. I don't think we will be able to go to any more shows until after we move!

Obviously, I'm disappointed but I do wish you a good move.

 

[RiddleMe]

I would listen to her. I also understand that buff can be arrived at more than one way (while not disputing the Wheaten part at all). Making the genetics geniuses and calculators nearly useless for breeding them well. This is where thedragonlady's good eye is important. From what I've been able to understand, this is an art, not a science.

Danne Honour is widely considered the Dean of Buff poultry. He complied this great collection of hundreds of articles on breeding Buff Poultry.
Online here: http://www.aviculture-europe.nl/Buff-Coloration.pdf  I was online one day someplace on the Net and inquiring about the proper color of Buff Poultry...because at that time I was interested in breeding Black -Tailed Buff Marans and was seeing several different hues in the fancy. Danne Honour happened to be conversing in the thread and told me that this article was the best he had ever seen in descibing true Buff coloration. It's in this PDF and titled, "The Gospel of True Buff Color in Domestic Fowl. ",  by W.H. Card (a noted poultryman and judge who was Danne Honours' uncle's uncle). Page 57 of 273.

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Thank you for the link! I kept hearing the buff was a difficult color to breed, now I understand why!

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

Let me see, where is this show at? Do you know the exact date?

My cock is in NO condition, but the hens and pullets have never looked better. I just plucked out every tail feather on that cock. Should have done it much sooner, but didn't want to get all of them out when he was replacing the rest of his body.

 

[mbmess2003]

February 16-17th Newnan, GA

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

Thanks for the info!

You won't see me there, but you MAY see some of my line shown by Kelly Corley. She's done a great job in conditioning them. She may have some bantams being shown there as well. I don't know if she is planning on showing them there or not?

 

[RiddleMe]

Danne Honour is widely considered the Dean of Buff poultry. He complied this great collection of hundreds of articles on breeding Buff Poultry.

Online here: http://www.aviculture-europe.nl/Buff-Coloration.pdf  I was online one day someplace on the Net and inquiring about the proper color of Buff Poultry...because at that time I was interested in breeding Black -Tailed Buff Marans and was seeing several different hues in the fancy. Danne Honour happened to be conversing in the thread and told me that this article was the best he had ever seen in descibing true Buff coloration. It's in this PDF and titled, "The Gospel of True Buff Color in Domestic Fowl. ",  by W.H. Card (a noted poultryman and judge who was Danne Honours' uncle's uncle). Page 57 of 273.


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Thank you so much for this link!

I will find the article on how to Breed Buff Plymouth Rocks that I had in one of my early issues of the Plymouth Rock Monthly for you to read. It was written by a fellow who is a master of the Buff Color and this past November he won Champion Large Fowl of the Show at Columbus Ohio on a big Buff Cochin Large Fowl. It is a great breed or color pattern the Buffs. If would be a very good breed to learn to master after you have learned to line breed a good large fowl STANDARD BREED.  Beginner may get upset with me but it takes time to be a good breeder and you need to learn with a color pattern that does not require a Masters Degree in Poultry Science to accomplish. So many get started with a color pattern that is so difficult to maintain and they can not understand why there are not any good quality birds out there to obtain. The Main REASON is they have been run down for more than 50 years and it would take some of the top 5% of to days breeders 20 year to breed them up. It can be done but only a hand full have done it.

In regards to say Rhode Island Whites they are nothing but White Rocks- White Wyandotte crosses. The ones from the 1950s have come and gone. Every year someone gets hung up on this old breed. They just where not that popular and they have no relation to our Rhode Island Reds other than the name. They tried to ride the coat tails of popularity in the 1920s and 30s with the Red Club when we had 5,000 members and even then no buddy fooled with them that much. One question I ask myself every day for you poor souls who are egg buying is does the seller know how to pack eggs correctly. Are you going to get a 5 or 15% hatch from your egg purchase. Production chicken eggs I think have a higher hatch rate than Standard Breed birds. Maybe because they are so crossed up in blood lines or they are are high in egg production I have no idea. But be care full.

I know you've discussed this before, but I was wondering if you could list the "easiest" colors and patterns to breed, assuming one can find a decent genetic start. I'm still trying to pick an H breed, and in my research there's been a few surprises, like the difficulties with buffs, all the factors to consider for a good red, double mating for partridge, etc. Makes the solid black or white birds more and more appealing from a learning/do no damage standpoint...but I'm pretty sure they aren't a color I'd want to focus on long term...

 

[Fred's Hens]

I know you've discussed this before, but I was wondering if you could list the "easiest" colors and patterns to breed, assuming one can find a decent genetic start. I'm still trying to pick an H breed, and in my research there's been a few surprises, like the difficulties with buffs, all the factors to consider for a good red, double mating for partridge, etc. Makes the solid black or white birds more and more appealing from a learning/do no damage standpoint...but I'm pretty sure they aren't a color I'd want to focus on long term...

Everybody is different. That's what makes this whole deal interesting. Me? Even after all these years? A flock of stay white Rocks still pleases me like nothing else. Just sayin'.