Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[sgribble]

No those belong to Matt1616. They are really nice wyandottes.

 

[thedragonlady]

He is a hand raised bird and his owner spends a lot of time with him. He beat my goose (mine was res Champ Goose) and she is not nearly as friendly as he is. Actually she doesn't like anyone.....ahahahaha...........those two geese trade off getting all the hardware. The male you were talking to is a sweetheart bird. A lot of times the bigger the bird, the nicer they are and the smaller they are ....they act like my Egyptian goose. She is calm on the cage, but don't even think about talking to her.....lol Egyptian geese are very deceiving. Many people mistake them for a duck or as small enough to handle easily. That old goose is only 4.5 pounds, but they are incredibly strong and can scare off a bird as big as a swan. Having a tiger by the tail is a good description of what it is like to pick one up. They are very pretty birds though and their behavior when left alone is pretty cool. I'm the alpha in my yards, so I have no problems in every day situations.

Walt

I had Egyptians." I am the mother, you are the goose" has to be firmly in your head.Pound for pound, they sure are strong little boogers. Beautiful, but more argumentative than even me !

 

[Robert Blosl]

There was some nice Egyptians at the Newnan Show. Walt I say a Gray Pomeranian goose with Pink feet and Pink bills in the junior show area a bill color like the ones my grand father use to raise in the mid 1950s. All I have seen in the past is the ones with the Orange feet and bills. Not my kind of color for this breed I once wanted to breed them but the standard never got changed so I said for get it. Thats the color they have in Germany and what my Grand Father had. He told me when he was a boy way back when that was the Geese his father had in Germany. This Goose looked like his old birds in the 1950s a real H Goose.

I hope those birds produce some nice chicks for my friend Matt and his dad. They are extreme high quality for color and type. Sorry that there where not any others for me to take pictures of but most of the colors are kind of rare and not all that hot in Quality.

I hope some folks try this breed they are a great American Breed that needs some parents to raise them. But like so many breeds they are way down in popularity. You should see what people are buying on the row where people where selling there chickens. The more colors they have the weirder they look they want them. When it comes to Preservation not much interest.

 

[Matt1616]

cgmccary, you are to modest...your Buckeyes are always in the hunt when you show them. If I'm not mistaken you had a big win up in Dalton, Ga a couple weeks ago. Congrats on that. Judge Art Reiber told me in Pensacola that your Buckeyes were some of the nicest ones he has seen. So any of you folks that want some great Buckeyes cgmccary is the person that you should talk to.
Thanks everyone for the kind words on my results at Newnan. Had a great time visiting with everyone.

 

[OSUman]

Bob, they have changed the color of the Pomeranians bills and feet from the 2001 to the 2010 standard, so they should be a pinkish red now.

There was some nice Egyptians at the Newnan Show. Walt I say a Gray Pomeranian goose with Pink feet and Pink bills in the junior show area a bill color like the ones my grand father use to raise in the mid 1950s. All I have seen in the past is the ones with the Orange feet and bills. Not my kind of color for this breed I once wanted to breed them but the standard never got changed so I said for get it. Thats the color they have in Germany and what my Grand Father had. He told me when he was a boy way back when that was the Geese his father had in Germany. This Goose looked like his old birds in the 1950s a real H Goose.

I hope those birds produce some nice chicks for my friend Matt and his dad. They are extreme high quality for color and type. Sorry that there where not any others for me to take pictures of but most of the colors are kind of rare and not all that hot in Quality.

I hope some folks try this breed they are a great American Breed that needs some parents to raise them. But like so many breeds they are way down in popularity. You should see what people are buying on the row where people where selling there chickens. The more colors they have the weirder they look they want them. When it comes to Preservation not much interest.

 

[Robert Blosl]

I had not heard this. There was a proposal a few years ago to change the colors to pink bills and pink feet but I was told it did not pass in the committee. There for one breeder who had the correct type, body color and leg and bill color sold his birds and gave them up.
That's when I was also turned off to take them on. The reason I think the standard made it this way as the leading strain of geese from Maine at that time had orange in the bills and the feet. They where also bigger geese and how did this happen? The breeder was the leading breeder of Enmden Geese and he must have crossed the Poms onto them to get larger size. The problem is sometimes when you do this the cross comes back to haunt you. Today we have White Wyandottes with White Rock Blood in them, Australorps with Black Orpington Blood in them and at this show I was at a fellow was telling me a White Leghorn strain may have White Phoenix blood in them to get the big flowing tails. Heck a few years ago some guys told me some strains of Black Old English had Black Rose Combs in them to make the tails wider.
Thank God the Rhode Island Reds are still pure.
Thanks for the post maybe Walt can confirm the color on the Poms feet and bill. I don't have a new standard and don't have the geese either.

 

[Yellow House Farm]

I believe that the way that it works is that there are two phases of Graylag geese, the Western phase nad the Eastern phase. The former has orange bills and feet where the latter has pink. Thus, it would make sense that Pomeranian geese would be pink, while Toulouse geese would be orange. I believe I remember reading an article in the Poultry Press a year or so ago where the complaint was made about the reoccuring problem of pink in Embden geese, but that would make sense, it seems to me. I would imagine that across Europe som much trade in geese has happened that both pick are rogane bills would be possible in all breeds, but it makes sense, to me at least, that the one color would be regionally more prevalent than the other.

 

[3riverschick]

Hi,
Were there any Lght Sussex at Newnan or Lake City?
Did they win anything?
Thanks,
Karen

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Hi,
Were there any Lght Sussex at Newnan or Lake City?
Did they win anything?
Thanks,
Karen

Karen, apparently the English class at the Newnan show was located in a different building than where I was looking....I was told that they were in the building with all the OEGBs and I never even went in there so I'm of no help....sorry....bantams aren't my thing so we didn't even go look.

 

[Robert Blosl]

SCOTT is right some birds where in the large building it was so spreed out my legs where so tired walking I just getting them back to normal. The Moran National Meet had so many birds they took up all the large fowl holes. Heck they told me they had to go borrow more large fowl coops for this show because of it.

I think there where some good large fowl Cornish there to.

Walt can solve the issue on the pink vs orange issue. I think he may have been on that committee.

I asked a very reliable source where did this take place where there where 75 or 80 geese and 8 breeders with affidavits saying they have been breeding them for 6 or 8 years or what ever the standard com mite requires. He told me there was no show for these geese they where just put into the standard with out a class like all the other breeds have been or done be for.

I was shocked. There is no history of how and when these Poms got into the standard and that is why the orange feet and bills I think got into the standard. When these geese came over here to the USA from Europe ie Germany where my grand father and great grand father lived in the late 1800s they where pink. My grand father in the 1950s was not a exhibitor but a framer. He got these geese from a hatchery and had them ship ed to the west coast of Washington in the early 1950s or late 40s. He would raise them for Christmas and Thanksgiving geese and a guy from Seattle would come down in a big two ton trailer with sides on it with two floors and fill the bottom and top floor with his geese. I think he raised about 100 per year and had enough breeders to do it again the next year. He sold some locally so he raised about 150 per year. They all had dull pink feet and bills. He kept them as they reminded him of his home land befor he came to this country in 1901.

They where true to breed and he loved them. Great old H bird from the old days and water fowl are H type birds and many people love and enjoy them. I am a old Rouen guy myself I love this old breed.