Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Zanna]

Dragonlady,
My 6 Sussex pullets/cockerels are starting to go "light". Pale combs, not growing as they should. 2 months old. They are in a separate coop from the other youngsters. Books says they need more protein. But not meat . They are getting Southern States All Grain Meat Maker and water. How do I add protein without adding meat? Will sprouted oats do it? They started kicking the food out of the feeder 2 days ago, which the book says means they are looking for something not in the feed. This is the second bag of this feed. Before that, they were getting Purina Start and Grow.
Thanks for your help,
Karen

Do you know why they say no meat (or fish?) ?? I feed some dried and sprouted peas, they are about 24% protein. Not sure if sprouting increases protein but may increase its availability?

 

[3riverschick]

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The book said feeding them a lot of meat to increase protein as they were coming into lay or going "light" would cause them to lay lesser quality eggs as they started laying ...and to start and stop laying in the beginning... instead of getting a robust start and continue laying thru the season. To avoid all these issues, the book said to feed them protein that didn't come from meat.
Best,
Karen

 

[cluck-cluck]

Liverwurst
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Thank you for this. We make "chicken pate" in tiny batches, and I don't think we'll ever have a full pound of livers (well, maybe in the future) but this recipe sounds healthier than what we do (too much butter!) and delicious. Thank you!

 

[Robert Blosl]

Quote: What a nice promising bird for her age.

 

[thedragonlady]

Dragonlady,
My 6 Sussex pullets/cockerels are starting to go "light". Pale combs, not growing as they should. 2 months old. They are in a separate coop from the other youngsters. Books says they need more protein. But not meat . They are getting Southern States All Grain Meat Maker and water. How do I add protein without adding meat? Will sprouted oats do it? They started kicking the food out of the feeder 2 days ago, which the book says means they are looking for something not in the feed. This is the second bag of this feed. Before that, they were getting Purina Start and Grow.
Thanks for your help,
Karen

Karen,

I keep all my babies on Purina Medicated Start and Grow. until they are 4 months old. I would put them back on it. When were they wormed ? If not recently, as in within 2 weeks, I'd use Safeguard on them individually. In the heat , birds don't want much fiber. Fiber makes heat.Try some Calf Manna on them. All my birds get it every day. Scrambled eggs are good too. They love them, and they don't create heat in the birds' tummies.

 

[thedragonlady]

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The book said feeding them a lot of meat to increase protein as they were coming into lay or going "light" would cause them to lay lesser quality eggs as they started laying ...and to start and stop laying in the beginning... instead of getting a robust start and continue laying thru the season. To avoid all these issues, the book said to feed them protein that didn't come from meat.
Best,
Karen

HORSEFEATHERS !! What book is this ???

 

[ronott1]

HORSEFEATHERS !! What book is this ???

Just a guess, but the book was probably written back at the time of Upton Sinclairs "The Jungle". There was a backlash on things "not Clean" back then. We still see the results of this when we run into someone that won't eat eggs and meat from a Back Yard or Small Farm Farm.

 

[thedragonlady]

Just a guess, but the book was probably written back at the time of Upton Sinclairs "The Jungle". There was a backlash on things "not Clean" back then. We still see the results of this when we run into someone that won't eat eggs and meat from a Back Yard or Small Farm Farm.

Due to mad cow , we're seeing it again. The feed companies are taking all the animal protein out of our poultry feeds. The Perdue chicken ad on TV makes me furious. I've written them about it too. I'd love to find a source for fresh bone meal, or meat meal, for the birds. In the meantime my gang has to make do with meat scraps, and all the bugs, worms, mice, and snakes they can catch.

 

[ronott1]

Due to mad cow , we're seeing it again. The feed companies are taking all the animal protein out of our poultry feeds. The Perdue chicken ad on TV makes me furious. I've written them about it too. I'd love to find a source for fresh bone meal, or meat meal, for the birds. In the meantime my gang has to make do with meat scraps, and all the bugs, worms, mice, and snakes they can catch.

It is sad.

I read a suggestion--make friends with a local butcher and get meat and bone scraps from them, boil them down and feed that the the chickens. The person said that the scraps were usually free but sometime the charged a small amount for the scraps.

Yes, chickens need animal protein.

 

[aveca]

Due to mad cow , we're seeing it again. The feed companies are taking all the animal protein out of our poultry feeds. The Perdue chicken ad on TV makes me furious. I've written them about it too. I'd love to find a source for fresh bone meal, or meat meal, for the birds. In the meantime my gang has to make do with meat scraps, and all the bugs, worms, mice, and snakes they can catch.

mad cow is such sinister disease..it is a prion which is a molecule and it behaves like a virus.. so it cannot be frozen out, or cooked out..it is unaffected by temps..causes crutsfeld jacobs prnounced yacobs disease..a terrible wasting disease in humans..recently there has been a mimic mirror disease in american midwest called cwd...chronic wasting disease..affecting elk, mule deer, pronghorn ect...it is also has been several human cases beleived they consumed elk..possible transmission to cattle herds....again..you could nuke a prion and not kill it so they were a little afraid of an epidemic..they are still watching britan and other europen populations because it can take up to 20 years for a prion to present..sorry, work at hospital and thinking out loud..

there is no known problem with eastern bred cattle but outbreak of brucellosis in pa from cattle from west shipped over ..