Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[BGMatt]

Of COURSE!!!!!! But it got me to wondering, which of the heritage breeds (IF ANY) might be the closest thing to a non-dual purpose fowl. Meat, meat, meat, meat! Meat, meat, meat, meat! Ladidida! MEAT! Oh, and "obviously" while I love facts and figures and data and that you take the time to answer , could you perhaps say which of our lovely needing to be preserved heritage fowl has the most meat, the fastest, everything else being equal (the feed, the time of year, the LOVE!) Just because I'm curious, man. And, if there IS such a thing, maybe I should hunt up the thread where I found this link, and correct the poor misguided dearies there, ja? Ja vo! now, where, where did I find that dratted link to begin with...

Nothing is going to be that quick growing. As noted in the "Heritage" definition the goal is no faster than 16 weeks to market weight. As far as what breeds come closest? A Dorking will be decent butcher weight at about 20-22 weeks. Delaware should be good to go around then as well. Can't think of anything else at the moment but I'm sure someone will chime in. None of the Asiatics are ready before at LEAST 24 weeks, more like 28 in my experiences.

 

[3riverschick]

Hum,
I did read Sam Brush had Silver Campines. But I found this written by him earlier this year.
Judge Brush was asked: Do you currently have any chickens and, if so, what kind?
"Absolutely - I keep a number of large fowl breeds and varieties - Cubalayas, Old English Games, Leghorns (3 colors) Minorcas and Dominiques. In bantams I keep Buff Leghorns and Red Naked Necks."
So best to just contact him and ask.
Best,
Karen

 

[fowlman01]

Hum,
 I did read Sam Brush had Silver Campines. But I found this written by him earlier this year.
 Judge Brush was asked: Do you currently have any chickens and, if so, what kind?
"Absolutely - I keep a number of large fowl breeds and varieties - Cubalayas, Old English Games, Leghorns (3 colors) Minorcas and Dominiques. In bantams I keep Buff Leghorns and Red Naked Necks."
 So best to just contact him and ask.
 Best,
 Karen

He doesn't list Cornish bantams and he has them.

w.

 

[Lacy Blues]

Of COURSE!!!!!! But it got me to wondering, which of the heritage breeds (IF ANY) might be the closest thing to a non-dual purpose fowl. <singing> Meat, meat, meat, meat! Meat, meat, meat, meat! Ladidida! MEAT! Oh, and "obviously" while I love facts and figures and data and that you take the time to answer

, could you perhaps say which of our lovely needing to be preserved heritage fowl has the most meat, the fastest, everything else being equal (the feed, the time of year, the LOVE!) Just because I'm curious, man. And, if there IS such a thing, maybe I should hunt up the thread where I found this link, and correct the poor misguided dearies there, ja? Ja vo! <puts spectacles back on> now, where, where did I find that dratted link to begin with...

AletaG

I just wanted to tell you that I can feel you smiling while you write and your excitement is endearing. Makes me smile when I read your posts.

 

[Robert Blosl]

New topic... is there a heritage 'meat bird', like http://www.sandgpoultry.com/heritagewhite.html says they have? 9 wks to harvest, or less, or is that a newfangled thing? I mean, we might end up with plenty just from culling and whatnot, but it would be good to know.

The other topic... The big shows I was directed to previously are all far more than 200 miles, and that would still an be overnighter. Maybe when I was in my 20's if I'd had little kids then, it would be a lark. I don't drive with no sleep these days. You better believe I will harass anyone I can at the little shows I CAN go to. Will let ya'll know what I find out and who I connect with. And, NO I STILL don't expect to know all I can know while sitting on my tuckus. But, considering we started in May, now have 6 hens that lay, a bunch still too young, a few roosters on their way, a prototype plucker started, mealie worm bin started, a black soldier fly larva bin halfway done, a pretty good handle on fermenting feed for evening snack time, a solid local NPIP Icelandic breeder to work with (newer, but darn professional about the whole thing), and a connection made for my first 2 true HRIR cockerels locally, and a lovely TX man who will send me my first HRIR pullets come Fall weather, *I'd* say I accomplished a heck of a lot online! Oh, and the lady who's incubating my first experimental chicks, due next week... another BYC connection. Haven't gotten ANYWHERE with the hobbyists locally. So far they're weird hippie chickies. Def could care less about heritage breeds.
Hugs anyway, you BGMatt dude, you!! And hope to see you somewhere, sometime, when I can.
-Aleta G.
Going to put dishes away and make dinner now.

there should be a good showing of fowl at the Puyallup fair this fall. There should be a show in Stephenson Washington unless they moved it down the road a little great club of chicken people. They still have the fair in Yakama I am sure that is a drive for you and they have two shows good ones in Centralia at the Fair Grounds in the spring and the fall. Have to look up he dates. Use to have a show in Elma years ago. I have three guys I grew up with that live in that area. They are all large fowl folks. One has a good strain of White Plymouth Rocks and will have surplus birds to share in a month or so. They grow fast and have meat on their bones. That's where my white rocks came from 23 years ago.

 

[thedragonlady]

Nothing is going to be that quick growing. As noted in the "Heritage" definition the goal is no faster than 16 weeks to market weight. As far as what breeds come closest? A Dorking will be decent butcher weight at about 20-22 weeks. Delaware should be good to go around then as well. Can't think of anything else at the moment but I'm sure someone will chime in. None of the Asiatics are ready before at LEAST 24 weeks, more like 28 in my experiences.

You can add Orps to that list too. Lots of meat on 20 week old cockerels.

 

[Pathfinders]

Of COURSE!!!!!! But it got me to wondering, which of the heritage breeds (IF ANY) might be the closest thing to a non-dual purpose fowl. <singing> Meat, meat, meat, meat! Meat, meat, meat, meat! Ladidida! MEAT! Oh, and "obviously" while I love facts and figures and data and that you take the time to answer

, could you perhaps say which of our lovely needing to be preserved heritage fowl has the most meat, the fastest, everything else being equal (the feed, the time of year, the LOVE!) Just because I'm curious, man. And, if there IS such a thing, maybe I should hunt up the thread where I found this link, and correct the poor misguided dearies there, ja? Ja vo! <puts spectacles back on> now, where, where did I find that dratted link to begin with...

Well, not to be a cheerleader or anything, but my answer to this is BUCKEYES, of course! LOL

 

[har]

Go for New Hampshires!!!

 

[BGMatt]

there should be a good showing of fowl at the Puyallup fair this fall. There should be a show in Stephenson Washington unless they moved it down the road a little great club of chicken people. They still have the fair in Yakama I am sure that is a drive for you and they have two shows good ones in Centralia at the Fair Grounds in the spring and the fall. Have to look up he dates. Use to have a show in Elma years ago. I have three guys I grew up with that live in that area. They are all large fowl folks. One has a good strain of White Plymouth Rocks and will have surplus birds to share in a month or so. They grow fast and have meat on their bones. That's where my white rocks came from 23 years ago.

Bob, the Stevenson shows were PNPA shows and are now held at Clark County Fairgrounds in Ridgefield, WA and the spring Chehalis show has been moved to Monroe.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Quote: Figured you could help me There are plenty of shows for a beginner to go to if they can afford to go or have time to go or more than anything to go. Most back yarders don't go they are happy as a clam on hide tide to stay home and look at their catalogs they get in the mail. You got to go out and see first hand what a classic Buff Orpington, or Light Brahma or Rhode Island Red or White Rock looks like to Comair to your feed store stock. I did as a kid and that motivated me.

Don't forget these silly New Hampshires Folks. They mature like quail lay fast, have meat on their bones and are dead on pretty on the ground. Matt 1616 has some and I give them the vote for the most stunning birds on his place. This is a old fashion H Standard of Perfection tread to preserve rare DUAL purpose breeds to some what.. Can not confuse these birds with Hybred fast growing chickens from the catalog its like fuit and meat. They have their purpose you can not beat a Cornish Rock and then caponize him and you got a killer eating chicken.

Heres a question with all the problems with no meat products in the feed these days. How does one fatten up say some Cornish game hens to eat if you had some. Or scubey R I Reds that you want to put in the freezer this winter. bob