Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[HallFamilyFarm]

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How do you get a light red bird from a dark red bird? Even the production reds are darker than a New Hampshire.

Ideal Poultry crossed their Patridge Chanteclers and their Buff Chanteclers and produced a Red Chantecler that looks a lot like a New Hampshire in color. Makes one wonder if the creators of the New Hampshire did a crossing of the RIR with a buff bird. Perhaps a Orpington or Rock.

 

[fowlman01]

The New Hamps have a very distinct red...almost orange.

Off to a show folks, back Sunday night. It only takes one, but I'm bring 30 just in case.....hahaha actaully coop training some birds with this show. This is the first of the season.

Walt

 

[lildinkem]

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How do you get a light red bird from a dark red bird? Even the production reds are darker than a New Hampshire.

Ideal Poultry crossed their Patridge Chanteclers and their Buff Chanteclers and produced a Red Chantecler that looks a lot like a New Hampshire in color. Makes one wonder if the creators of the New Hampshire did a crossing of the RIR with a buff bird. Perhaps a Orpington or Rock.

The way the words are in the description makes me think someone isn't telling the whole story and his having a good laugh in their grave as people try to use ONLY RIR's to recreate the look. Around the turn of last century, the number one broiler bird in the UK was Sussex, and also around that time they developed the Buff Orpington, I can see that cross right here in my yard. NOW, with the thought of dual utility, add some RIR for egg production, you then get the yellow skin (which looks better with this color) and then I can see selectively breed for the New Hampshire look.
These are just a Buff Orp on a Speckeled Sussex. IF I feel the urge and to complete the look, I should get a real RIR for the type and Yellow skin. Just a thought I had.
Here is why I have my suspicion. These are strait from a BO/SS cross.

 

[lildinkem]

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Have fun Walt!

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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How do you get a light red bird from a dark red bird? Even the production reds are darker than a New Hampshire.

Ideal Poultry crossed their Patridge Chanteclers and their Buff Chanteclers and produced a Red Chantecler that looks a lot like a New Hampshire in color. Makes one wonder if the creators of the New Hampshire did a crossing of the RIR with a buff bird. Perhaps a Orpington or Rock.

The way the words are in the description makes me think someone isn't telling the whole story and his having a good laugh in their grave as people try to use ONLY RIR's to recreate the look. Around the turn of last century, the number broiler bird in the UK was Sussex, and also around that time they developed the Buff Orpington, I can see that cross right here in my yard. NOW, with the thought of dual utility, add some RIR for egg production, you then get the yellow skin (which looks better with this color) and then I can see selectively breed for the New Hampshire look.
These are just a Buff Orp on a Speckeled Sussex. IF I feel the urge and to complete the look, I should get a real RIR for the type and Yellow skin. Just a thought I had.
Here is why I have my suspicion. These are strait from a BO/SS cross.
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx94/lildinkem/000_8163.jpg?t=1286554087

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx94/lildinkem/000_8042.jpg?t=1286554112

These sure look like the NH. Not every creator told how they did it. we still don't know what breeds were used to create the Buckeye bantams. No one will tell.

 

[lildinkem]

Well, then let's complete the project with a REAL RIR to take to these two. And wait nd see process. Now IF it was me making these a 80 years ago, I would use my too lite a Red RIR's for my project. MY CULLS. That is what I use here for projects. Does that makes sense?

 

[Robert Blosl]

We havent even scrated the service yet. Look what we have brought out so far in the different breeds with pictures to show every one. So much has been learned by so many good teachers. We all are learning and we all can share our birds with others. I found a new strain of Barred Plymouth Rocks today that are not only pretty but lay eggs like crazy. Also, found a good stain of Dominiques and Orpingtons. bob

 

[Chris09]

Mike Stichler out of Ohio has good Dominiques also.
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Chris

 

[lildinkem]

I think if my suspicions are correct I will be in need for a BR down the road to see IF what comes out of these two NH looking types, after crossed with some lite RIRs with great type, we can make some Delawares.
Already got this far without even trying, no secrets here. This is a great place to share possibilities of Old and New heritage breeds. And I appreciate all those who have the wisdom & share from years of breeding.

 

[MTFarm]

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Thanks for that info.

This thread and the other continue to be very informative/educational for many of us rookies.

Keep it coming.