Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Chris09]

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[xoxocammyxoxo]

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Chris

Is there one of those for all breeds?

 

[punky rooster]

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if your breeding numbers

Absolutely NOT!!! I'm talking strictly about good sound breeding. Period.

If you want to keep, maintain and IMPROVE a breed over a period of years, then you cannot hope to do so with merely a trio.

By the way, in case you didn't read what I said earlier, one of the secrets to good fowl is to breed lots and lots of chicks. If you want to call that numbers then go ahead, but you better cull those numbers hard if you want to succeed with chickens.

Ok I'm talking about breeding show birds. you don't need to breed hundreds of chicks to get good birds

 

[OSUman]

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Absolutely NOT!!! I'm talking strictly about good sound breeding. Period.

If you want to keep, maintain and IMPROVE a breed over a period of years, then you cannot hope to do so with merely a trio.

By the way, in case you didn't read what I said earlier, one of the secrets to good fowl is to breed lots and lots of chicks. If you want to call that numbers then go ahead, but you better cull those numbers hard if you want to succeed with chickens.

Ok I'm talking about breeding show birds. you don't need to breed hundreds of chicks to get good birds

He is saying you need two trios to get a good genetic base i think.

 

[Chris09]

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Chris

Is there one of those for all breeds?

I haven't found one yet.

What breed are you looking for?

Chris

 

[saladin]

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Ok I'm talking about breeding show birds. you don't need to breed hundreds of chicks to get good birds

He is saying you need two trios to get a good genetic base i think.

Yes, I thought it was quite clear. Thanks OSU.

Breeding Show Birds is JUST what I'm talking about. They are/should be the Best of the Best. Not just in looks but also in health.
If you want good Show Birds you have to breed alot.

Bill Wulff, a good friend, use to hatch 2,500 Moderns a year to get his show birds. He's older and doesn't hatch that many any more, but he still hatches in the hundreds.

 

[xoxocammyxoxo]

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Is there one of those for all breeds?

I haven't found one yet.

What breed are you looking for?

Chris

Delaware and Phoenix

 

[kathyinmo]

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A new "breeder," needs to have a mentor, don't you think? Are there many willing to help out the newbies? It is difficult when there is no local mentor available. Do you have suggestions for a new chicken keeper that would be interested in breeding? I do understand the SOP is most helpful, however, a mentor would sure be beneficial.

Breeders are like chickens, it is hare to find the good ones. wink
A lot of people are self proclaimed breeders.

Chris

I agree, Chris. I have read more than one person claiming to be, "breeding," after just purchasing a trio of some breed. Frustrating as it is, I do think most of them have good intentions.

I think the term, "breeder," is misunderstood to some. I opened a thread with that very topic, a while back.... https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=392291 I think that many propagate and believe they are breeders. (My opinion, anyway.)

I doubt I will ever be able to hold the title of, "a breeder," as I imagine it takes years to learn all there is to learn.​

 

[xoxocammyxoxo]

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A new "breeder," needs to have a mentor, don't you think? Are there many willing to help out the newbies? It is difficult when there is no local mentor available. Do you have suggestions for a new chicken keeper that would be interested in breeding? I do understand the SOP is most helpful, however, a mentor would sure be beneficial.

Breeders are like chickens, it is hare to find the good ones. wink
A lot of people are self proclaimed breeders.

Chris

I agree, Chris. I have read more than one person claiming to be, "breeding," after just purchasing a trio of some breed. Frustrating as it is, I do think most of them have good intentions.

I think the term, "breeder," is misunderstood to some. I opened a thread with that very topic, a while back.... https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=392291 I think that many propagate and believe they are breeders. (My opinion, anyway.)

I doubt I will ever be able to hold the title of, "a breeder," as I imagine it takes years to learn all there is to learn.​

When I learn, I'd be willing to help out newbies... BTW what does SDWD mean

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

That is one advantage we have with the Buckeye. The ALBC used about 4 lines in their program. We can now use any male from those four lines as an outcross, without going outside what they used. The gene pool is quite large. Most of the lines go back to Duane Urch, though some were isloated from any new birds for 10 years or more. The breeders that the ALBC chose to asssit in their project were already considered Masters in breeding in other breeds. The blueprint that the buckeye project created can now be used with any breed.