Bobcats are everywhere!!!

[OhZark Biddies]

Here is my cat set. I have to admit it's not an original idea. I learned it from the Alaskan bush people show.

Depending on the size of the connibear either use a tote or a 5 gallon bucket as appropriate. Cut 2 notches opposite each other for the springs to set in. They need to be wide enough not to interfere with the springs releasing when the trigger is released.

I hung a chicken head in the back as the final attractor more for racoons and the like. 9n top of the set is a stick with a CD disk hanging off of fishing line. This is the visual attractor. The piece of duct tape on the bottom is covered with cat nip. Bobcats have serious ADHD. More than one sense needs to be stimulated or they will loose interest in investigating. This set incorporates visual movement, scent and food. Interesting that the identical set with chicken wing feathers has never caught anything. Just the one with the CD.View attachment 1982472 View attachment 1982473

You might want to study your states regulations,

a quick search seems to indicate your set is illegal in TX... my apologies if I’ve misinterpreted something though, I’m not familiar with your state’s regulations...

... a 280 or 330 on dry land is not allowed in many places due to the high risk of killing someone’s pet...

even where legal it is often considered irresponsible to make that set where pets could accidentally get into it...

trappers don’t need anymore bad press...

I take a fair number of bobcats without bodygrip traps, so I know they’re not at all needed to catch Bobcats

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_br_w7000_0065.pdf

 

[Folly's place]

Thanks for the pertinent comments about that trap; anything could get killed in there!
Mary

 

[Fairview01]

You might want to study your states regulations,

a quick search seems to indicate your set is illegal in TX... my apologies if I’ve misinterpreted something though, I’m not familiar with your state’s regulations...

... a 280 or 330 on dry land is not allowed in many places due to the high risk of killing someone’s pet...

even where legal it is often considered irresponsible to make that set where pets could accidentally get into it...

trappers don’t need anymore bad press...

I take a fair number of bobcats without bodygrip traps, so I know they’re not at all needed to catch Bobcats

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_br_w7000_0065.pdf

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A body grip trap can be used in Texas on dry sets if the diagonal width does not exceed 12". There is also a clause that allows me to take predators by any means. I am not trapping them, selling their fur or anything else. Thats a fine line of division right there.

I am within city limits. Anymore just about everything is within city limits. I can legally discharge my firearms in a responsible manner and kill any animal, domestic or otherwise that is in the act of harassing, injuring or killing my livestock. This includes roaming pets.

In regards to pets i take a very dim view of irresponsible pet owners. My sets are made on my private property. A domesticated animal can cause as much damage as any predator/varmint. A pet owner that allows their pets to roam is telling me what i have less rights to do what i am legally allowed to do on my piece of dirt. I've had this conversation with a neighbor concerning their dogs running my horses. The conversation the law had with my neighbor was that i have every right to drop their dogs when the horses are out and they enter my pasture.

Domestic predators have no more right to be on my property threatening my livestock as do wild ones. Both can and are dispatched with prejudice.

Leash laws protect domestic pets.

 

[OhZark Biddies]

A body grip trap can be used in Texas on dry sets if the diagonal width does not exceed 12". There is also a clause that allows me to take predators by any means. I am not trapping them, selling their fur or anything else. Thats a fine line of division right there.

I am within city limits. Anymore just about everything is within city limits. I can legally discharge my firearms in a responsible and kill any animal, domestic or otherwise that is harassing, injuring or killing my livestock. This includes roaming pets.

In regards to pets i take a very dim view of irresponsible pet owners. My sets are made on my private property. A domesticated animal can cause as much damage as any predator/varmint. A pet owner that allows their pets to roam is telling me what i have less rights to do what i am legally allowed to do on my piece of dirt. I've had this conversation with a neighbor concerning their dogs running my horses. The conversation the law had with my neighbor was that i have every right to drop their dog when the horses are out and they enter my pasture.

Domestic predators have no more right to be on my property threatening my livestock as do wild ones. Both can and are dispatched with prejudice.

Leash laws protect domestic pets.

If you’ve checked into it and are following the laws, then keep on trucking...

Your post read as if you just saw some knuckleheads doing something on TV and decided to copy it, so I thought it appropriate to mention it, before someone else saw your post and thought it was a good idea, without thinking it through...

Personally I see it as a slob set regardless of the laws... I use 330s all the time so I assure you I have no issue with the trap itself...

As I said originally, even where legal that set is often considered irresponsible when there is any chance a pet would get into it...

Too many times in the past someone like yourself has killed a pet that got onto their property and the whole mess ends up on the news or the internet and it gets reported as “trappers” killing pets...

The people who pay the price are actual trappers who loose the right to use certain kinds of equipment because of the actions of those who were setting irresponsibly.

In any case, chicken owners looking to remove a problem bobcat from their property would likely have more success with a properly sized coil spring trap...

as someone else on this thread said, bobcats are not at all hard to catch with just a few fundamental trapping skills... there’s no need to ruin your favorite Justin Bieber CD and all the other silliness

 

[itsasmallfarm]

i would highly suggest not using 330's with out proper training and even with proper safety mistakes can happen.

as i was told treat every one AS if it was a fire arm. always safety before anything else.

 

[OhZark Biddies]

i would highly suggest not using 330's with out proper training and even with proper safety mistakes can happen.

as i was told treat every one AS if it was a fire arm. always safety before anything else.

Safety is important and large bobdygrips are mean traps for sure...

but I guess you’d need to explain ‘proper training’ for me to know what you mean by that term

I think we can just state it real plainly, and say that anyone on BYC showing or suggesting large body grips to others for dealing with chicken eaters, with no warning of the risks these traps might present, is probably not the person to be taking trapping advice from to start with...

 

[itsasmallfarm]

Safety is important and large bobdygrips are mean traps for sure...

but I guess you’d need to explain ‘proper training’ for me to know what you mean by that term

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I think we can just state it real plainly, and say that anyone on BYC showing or suggesting large body grips to others for dealing with chicken eaters, with no warning of the risks these traps might present, is probably not the person to be taking trapping advice from to start with...

proper training to me is taking the trapping safety course. and also being taught the laws and regulations on the trapping industry.

 

[OhZark Biddies]

proper training to me is taking the trapping safety course. and also being taught the laws and regulations on the trapping industry.

Then to you, I’m not properly trained, lol

I assure you though that my trapping education and experience is up to par...sometimes I do have to relearn things the hard way though

What is ‘the’ trapping course? Does Canada have a single nationally standardized course on how to catch critters?

I’ve never taken a trapping course, but I do stay informed of, and abide by, my state’s regulations ... but I can’t say that I’ve been ‘taught’ those things... it’s just good old fashioned personal responsibility and self reliance I suppose...

Next I guess you’d need to explain ‘regulations on the trapping industry’ for me to know what you mean by that

As far as I know there is no ‘industry’ that governs the regulations in your country or my own... in the US those are set by each State’s DNR, etc....

my impression from time spent fishing in Canada is that the MNR sets natural resource regulations, etc. and I would guess that would cover trapping in Canada also... but that would not be an ‘industry’ to me...

In any case, if you’ve been trapping for any length of time, then I don’t have to tell you who will teach you the most about it

 

[itsasmallfarm]

Then to you, I’m not properly trained, lol

I assure you though that my trapping education and experience is up to par...sometimes I do have to relearn things the hard way though

What is ‘the’ trapping course? Does Canada have a single nationally standardized course on how to catch critters?

I’ve never taken a trapping course, but I do stay informed of, and abide by, my state’s regulations ... but I can’t say that I’ve been ‘taught’ those things... it’s just good old fashioned personal responsibility and self reliance I suppose...

Next I guess you’d need to explain ‘regulations on the trapping industry’ for me to know what you mean by that

As far as I know there is no ‘industry’ that governs the regulations in your country or my own... in the US those are set by each State’s DNR, etc....

my impression from time spent fishing in Canada is that the MNR sets natural resource regulations, etc. and I would guess that would cover trapping in Canada also... but that would not be an ‘industry’ to me...

In any case, if you’ve been trapping for any length of time, then I don’t have to tell you who will teach you the most about it

i will try to answer your questions.

here in my province, we have to take a trappers course either through a class room setting or a challenge through the government (i just studied and wrote at my local DnR office) other provinces have different laws regarding course training. and accepted training.

the course is mainly for how to handle and market your furs you catch. and of course lots of safety. mine even covered basic survival items. and making sets to catch certain fur bearers. such as a dirt hole set for canines (from foxes to wolves) or a box set for coon or fisher.

the regulations on the trapping industry cover more of the humane fur trapping agreement set by the EU its called the AIHTS (agreement on international humane trapping standards) pretty much covers what we can and can not use and methods which are deemed humane for capture of animals. its then adapted by province.

i think you guys in the states signed off to a modified agreement compared to us in Canada.

i guess it depends on where you fished in Canada (either provincial waters or federal) i know there are different laws stating the rules for federal (our national parks) compared to provincial laws. (i don't go or fish in any national parks) also trapping here classed as an industry as you can get registered trap lines on crown (or provincial owned land) and only said person can trap in that area.

i have not trapped for very long (this is my fourth season) i just follow and study all the laws and regulations so am not breaking anything.

 

[OhZark Biddies]

i will try to answer your questions.

here in my province, we have to take a trappers course either through a class room setting or a challenge through the government (i just studied and wrote at my local DnR office) other provinces have different laws regarding course training. and accepted training.

the course is mainly for how to handle and market your furs you catch. and of course lots of safety. mine even covered basic survival items. and making sets to catch certain fur bearers. such as a dirt hole set for canines (from foxes to wolves) or a box set for coon or fisher.

the regulations on the trapping industry cover more of the humane fur trapping agreement set by the EU its called the AIHTS (agreement on international humane trapping standards) pretty much covers what we can and can not use and methods which are deemed humane for capture of animals. its then adapted by province.

i think you guys in the states signed off to a modified agreement compared to us in Canada.

i guess it depends on where you fished in Canada (either provincial waters or federal) i know there are different laws stating the rules for federal (our national parks) compared to provincial laws. (i don't go or fish in any national parks) also trapping here classed as an industry as you can get registered trap lines on crown (or provincial owned land) and only said person can trap in that area.

i have not trapped for very long (this is my fourth season) i just follow and study all the laws and regulations so am not breaking anything.

That’s interesting, it doesn’t sound all that different than what I’m used to here, other than just a lot more red tape... but I have no idea what a typical trapping course conducted by our state would entail...

the only thing I’ve heard referred to as a trapping industry here is the lure makers, hardware makers, etc....basically the supply industry...

if trapping itself is still considered an industry, it’s a struggling one at best... aside from the ADC (Animal Damage Control) industry which is probably doing well