Brahma Thread

[pokey]

Did the VH come from the addition of another breed added for color?

 

[tuesdays chicks]

wow now I'll be watching my chicks that hatch if they hatch

, not that vh matters to me but never saw a chick pic with it before. trying to hatch some dark and buff got a mixed bunch of eggs from someone don't know what quality they are.

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

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some of the Brahmas in European country's are supposed to be that way... so when they where imported they had to be breed out and its hard to do...

 

[big medicine]

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some of the Brahmas in European country's are supposed to be that way... so when they where imported they had to be breed out and its hard to do...

That, or they were outcrossed to Cochins over here.

 

[Tim63]

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some of the Brahmas in European country's are supposed to be that way... so when they where imported they had to be breed out and its hard to do...

I don't think any of the Brahmas here have been imported from Europe.

 

[sonew123]

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some of the Brahmas in European country's are supposed to be that way... so when they where imported they had to be breed out and its hard to do...

I don't think any of the Brahmas here have been imported from Europe.

X2. I haven't heard of any coming here

 

[pokey]

Funny how when you out cross you get half of what you want and double what you don't

 

[sonew123]

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Amen!

 

[Wimberleytexaschick]

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The group of SLB chicks that had the one VH chick were from hatched eggs that I purchased from someone here on BYC. I am only keeping 3 pullets of that group to add to my SLB roosters and hens from Dan's stock. I am hoping that by combining these and having roosters from different stock will reduce the risk of vulture hocks. If I find any evidence of VH in this Spring's hatchings, then I have a big problem. Correct approach?

To the best of my knowledge, all silver laced Brahmas in the U.S., including Dan's, originated from my stock, as well as his blue laced golds/reds. He has blended them with his own buff laced project birds since then.

Have you hatched any chicks out of the birds from Dan ? If so, any sign of VH?

If you have the room and multiple males, I believe I would keep the females seperate. Because you know the newcomers at least are suspects for potentally carrying a hidden single copy.

That's the difficult thing about breeding out a recessive like VH, single carriers look perfectly normal. Another option would be to test mate to a full blown VH. Any bird who produces any VH chicks out of this mating(should be 50% so won't require alot of chicks to tell) is carrying a single hidden copy and should not be used as a breeder.

If I had to do it over again, and had any inclination of such issues popping back up, I would have surely kept my birds here, till I had it worked out. Have not had any such problems with my blue laced red project birds, and have not mixed these lines for that very reason.

I knew that Dan's SLB originally came from your stock. And yes, the eggs came from Danny where I found only one VH. I do have both groups separate in case their are any carriers (they are a few months apart in age) and can keep them that way to find out if if any chicks are coming up with VH. I culled the VH cockerel as soon as I saw it at 3 weeks old, so I cannot test breed him to look for the gene. I have no intentions to mass produce these birds, just want to keep a nice small (4 hens/roo) correct flock. Thank you for your advice Gary.

 

[JohnGalt]

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