Brave/Foolish Hawk

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  1. Fentress

    Fentress Chillin' With My Peeps

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    We have had a hawk make a few unsuccessul passes at our flock of 22. Well, yesterday, he was successfull. Wife called me at work and said that he had made a kill and that she could not shoo him away, she even blasted him with the water hose. I came home and walked directly up to the hawk and put the poultry net over him. Is this normal that the hawk would be so unafraid of us? It appears to be an immature red tail. It still has white mottles on it's back and no red markings yet. So, I harrassed it for a while and then laid him up into the electronet fencing and watched him get several shocks. When I released him he was a little wobbly on his feet, but within a few minutes he recovered and hopped into the woods and then flew off. I was fortunate to be able to give him some negative reinforcement. Do you think he will return? If he does, there is nothing left that I could do at this point to dissuade him. Guess what , my wife just called and his is back, did not make a kill but he is trying. Is this normal?
     
  2. thebanthams

    thebanthams Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes Some hawks are very aggresive ! They will not give up until they got their food! I dont know if its a female, maybe trying to feed her babies? YES they will keep coming back. You will have to fine a way to scare them off. Is your pen covered on top cages? Some people put fake owls on top. How about a scarecrow? I really dont know if it works ! Good Luck! You dont want to lose another hen!
     
  3. FireTigeris

    FireTigeris Tyger! Tyger! burning bright

    Yes it's normal.

    Be careful, not sure where 'harass' is crossed instead of 'scare' fines very if caught and internet evidence is becoming more and more accepted in court.


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    http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-13.pdf

    No permit is required merely to scare or herd
    depredating migratory birds other than endangered or threatened species and bald or golden eagles. You should apply for a
    depredation permit only after non-lethal management proves unsuccessful. If a permit is issued, you will be expected to continue
    to integrate non-lethal techniques when implementing any lethal measures.

    Please provide the following information:
    1. List the species of migratory birds causing the depredation problem and estimate the number of each involved.
    2. Provide the exact location of the property or properties where the control activity would be conducted (State, county, and physical
    address of the specific site).
    3. Description of damage.
    (a) Describe the specific migratory bird damage or injury you are experiencing.
    (b) How long has it been occurring (e.g., the number of years)?
    (c) What times or seasons of the year does it occur?
    (d) Describe any human health and safety hazards involved.
    (e) Provide details such as types of crops destroyed, human injuries sustained, property damage incurred, and health and safety
    hazards created.
    4. Describe the extent of the damage and estimate the economic loss suffered as a result, such as percentage of acres of crop and
    dollar loss, cost to replace damaged property, or cost of injuries.
    5. Describe the nonlethal measures you have taken to control or eliminate the problem, including how long (e.g., a week, month,
    year(s)) and how often they have been conducted. List the techniques you have tried, such as harassment (e.g., horns,
    pyrotechnics, propane cannons), habitat management (e.g., vegetative barriers, longer grass management, fencing), cultural
    practices (e.g., crop selection and placement, management of pets and feeding schedules), or no feeding policies.
    6. Proposed actions.
    (a) What actions are you proposing to take to alleviate the problem (e.g., kill, eliminate nesting, trap and relocate)?
    (b) Describe the method you propose (e.g., shoot; addle, oil, destroy eggs; trap and relocate; trap and donate birds to a food
    processing center).
    (c) If you propose to trap birds, describe the method that will be used and your (or your agents) experience with the method.
    7. What long-term measures do you plan to take to eliminate the problem?


    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/113482/legal-elimination-of-hawks-and-owls

    Hawks have no reason to be scared of humans, we are not naturally in conflict with hawks, we cannot fly and we are slow in comparison and ignore them for the most part.

    You need if possible a very large rooster and plenty of places for your hens to hide under cover (large bushes, propped up- up-side down wheelbarrows, opened barrels... ).
     
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