Breed?

If you are in the US.. use a "flock raiser" (20% protein) or "grower" (18% protein) feed and put oyster shell on the side for the active layers. This will improve the birds overall condition and help them recover more quickly if they are currently getting layer. The difference in my flock's molting routine since making the switch has been very convincing.. They molt softer, return to lay sooner, and don't withdrawal like before.

Layer feed is too high in calcium for non layers which if fed LONG TERM *could* (doesn't mean will) cause kidney issues including gout, possible failure and even sudden death.. often mistakenly blamed on heart attack. It is also lower in protein but importantly amino acids.. which feathers are made from 90% protein and it's amino acids.

Regarding parasites.. Check after dark using a flashlight below the vent and on the abdomen and look for crawlies running away as this is the easiest time to see them.

That girl MIGHT be having some ascites (water belly) going on or it may just be from parasites coupled with bullying. I have had LARGE groups of hens and never an issue as described.. Different set ups, feed, space, and environments make a huge difference in flock antics.. So the previous person MUST have set them up for failure.. even if only by accident.

So far the best results I've had against poultry parasites is using a permethryn based product.. found in the equine section at feed stores and labeled "horse fly spray", under many name brands and concentrations from ready to use or measure to dilute. I like the ready to use for the convenience and a 32 oz bottle costed under $8 and treated (for mosquitoes) my 2 large goats and 3 medium dogs... plus for mite or lice my flock of 72 birds and lasted me 2+ years when using as needed including spritzing roost, lay boxes, coop floor, etc.

If you do follow this route.. it only takes a very small spritz,, just below the vent, under each wing pit, and to the nape of neck on the back of the head.. with feathers parted so the spritz hits the skin. Soaking is NOT required and it's labeled for use in chickens with NO withdrawal time on eggs. Repeat in 7-10 days according to directions if your able to identify your parasite culprit. This is key to disrupting the life cycle and not having resistance built to the product. Please note that each bird has it's own immune system and as such some may be experiencing more challenge than others.. but ALL should be treated so they don't become parasite targets.

Doing treatments like this.. is easiest done after dark using a flashlight (or headlamp is best) and keeping it dim to prevent any chasing and confusion.

Some of those birds may be molting. Some broken or missing feathers may not come back in until they do molt. But I bet you do see start to see a difference before long in over all condition.

If you are able.. you might consider doing a group sample fecal float at the vet or mail in.. to check for internal parasites as the only ones that may ever be seen in dropping are large round worms and tape worms. All others stay inside the intestines and only the microscopic oocysts (eggs) will pass in dropping to never be seen by the naked eye. I never just treat without confirmation of need to make sure I use the right medication as not all effect every parasite. Otherwise I MIGHT consider treating with broad spectrum wormer TWICE (according to directions), since they are new birds to your land with obvious prior management issues.

You've come to the right place for support. CANNOT wait to see the difference now that they're under your care. Be patient, they will return to lay and pay you back! :highfive:
Ok so i found teeny tiny worms in the stool could it be coccotiosis as one is showing signs of it and i seperated her and is on corid treatment
The worm was so small and a little bit invisible and white
 
Ok so i found teeny tiny worms in the stool could it be coccotiosis as one is showing signs of it and i seperated her and is on corid treatment
The worm was so small and a little bit invisible and white
Main possibilities that I know of would be maggots, tape worms, or I think there are many types of round worm, maybe you are describing one of them. You will definitely want to identify what you are seeing and address it with the appropriate treatment.
https://extension.unh.edu/resource/internal-parasites-chickens

If you KNOW it wasn't maggots that hatched after the dropping had sat a while and it was fresh, if it still looks like a maggot.. I would double check the vent area and make sure there was also no chance of fly strike going on.. (maggots eating the hen from the inside out).

For general information and not my personal recommendation with regards to which medication to use, as that depends on what you're treating...
https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/hobby-farming/raising-chickens/parasitic-worms-in-chickens/
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Coccidia are a microscopic protozoa and cannot be seen by the naked eye. (there is a thread on here right now about some of us who are doing exactly that ourselves :sick) We can only go by symptoms along with history and other clues that present.

Although coccidiosis would be unlikely at that age.. since their immune system is likely shot according to their appearance (no rudeness intended) and they are on new ground that might have a different strain of coccidia than they've been exposed to before.. it is possible.

Corid works by mimicking thiamine a B vitamin and slowly starving out the coccidia as that is what they feed on. I would consider not separating anyone as it can cause major pecking order upset, especially when they return.. and treat everyone as an entire group if you feel the need..

Corid (amprolium) has no egg withdrawal..
http://www.farad.org/publications/digests/122015EggResidue.pdf

My favorite supplement for a bird in need (not during Corid treatment) is Rooster Booster brand Poultry Cell (product). It doesn't mix well in water so I mix a small amount feed (enough for everyone in the flock to get their fill for the day) with water and stir it in.
 
Main possibilities that I know of would be maggots, tape worms, or I think there are many types of round worm, maybe you are describing one of them. You will definitely want to identify what you are seeing and address it with the appropriate treatment.
https://extension.unh.edu/resource/internal-parasites-chickens

If you KNOW it wasn't maggots that hatched after the dropping had sat a while and it was fresh, if it still looks like a maggot.. I would double check the vent area and make sure there was also no chance of fly strike going on.. (maggots eating the hen from the inside out).

For general information and not my personal recommendation with regards to which medication to use, as that depends on what you're treating...
https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/hobby-farming/raising-chickens/parasitic-worms-in-chickens/
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Coccidia are a microscopic protozoa and cannot be seen by the naked eye. (there is a thread on here right now about some of us who are doing exactly that ourselves :sick) We can only go by symptoms along with history and other clues that present.

Although coccidiosis would be unlikely at that age.. since their immune system is likely shot according to their appearance (no rudeness intended) and they are on new ground that might have a different strain of coccidia than they've been exposed to before.. it is possible.

Corid works by mimicking thiamine a B vitamin and slowly starving out the coccidia as that is what they feed on. I would consider not separating anyone as it can cause major pecking order upset, especially when they return.. and treat everyone as an entire group if you feel the need..

Corid (amprolium) has no egg withdrawal..
http://www.farad.org/publications/digests/122015EggResidue.pdf

My favorite supplement for a bird in need (not during Corid treatment) is Rooster Booster brand Poultry Cell (product). It doesn't mix well in water so I mix a small amount feed (enough for everyone in the flock to get their fill for the day) with water and stir it in.
Cecal or eyeworm
 
Cecal or eyeworm
The only reason i even saw it was because the poop was light light brown and liquidy and it was just swimming and it was definetly not a maggot it was 100 times smaller than an average maggot and would corid work on other types of parasites?
 
The only reason i even saw it was because the poop was light light brown and liquidy and it was just swimming and it was definetly not a maggot it was 100 times smaller than an average maggot and would corid work on other types of parasites?
Corid only works for Coccidia, that I know of.

Eye worm come out of the eyeball.

This link (same as the first one posted) has information regarding worming.. the last page has a table that shows which medication works for which parasite species..
https://extension.unh.edu/resources/files/Resource007786_Rep11398.pdf

An easy read regarding poultry parasites..
https://poultry.extension.org/articles/poultry-health/internal-parasites-of-poultry/

I have not YET had to treat for worms. So I don't know if there is one med preferred to another. You may be able to notice a preference if look through some other worming threads if you need more input.. just use that search button in the upper right corner. :)
 

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