Breeding Aseels

[Florida Bullfrog]

Why does it matter in this case? @Florida Bullfrog Aseels are dead enders as far as Aseels go. They are being bred into something to produce something that will not be Aseel and not even gamefowl. If they are to be bred to Aseels to produce what called Aseels, then you have a valid point.

Correct. I am using these aseel because of traits they may or may not add to my jungle fowl hybrids. The end result wouldn’t be an aseel and I wouldn’t call it one. These aseel are my biological mineshafts I’m mining for genetic material. Nothing more. I might strike the gold I’m looking for or I may end up with fool’s gold. Chickens are about as disposable as animals come. If “parrot face” here grows into a mature adult without a problem and I cross him to my jungle fowl, I’ll either like the results and thus start a line of quasimodo chickens that no person would mistake for any other chicken. Or won’t like the results and I’ll cull them all.

My other two aseel have strong looking but normal beaks and all 5 of my brother’s look normal. And the normal ones are definitely getting crossed to the jungle fowl. That would still be a perversion of aseel purity as bradymars would reckon.

But that’s the fun of chickens. They’re biological legos that can mixed and matches and put together in all sorts of fun ways. Today’s mutation is next millenia’s or even next century’s baseline traits.

 

[centrarchid]

I am not able to imagine any benefits of the parrot looking face in a free-range setting. As gamefowl used for what they are bred for, the parrot face could have a real advantage.

 

[sdm111]

Why breed that one when you have others to choose from that's not deformed?

 

[Warrior gamefowl]

Interesting thread.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

Why breed that one when you have others to choose from that's not deformed?

Deformity may sometimes be a point of view.

Our domestic chickens were jungle fowl deformities at some point, as were nearly all domesticated species of plant and animal derived from wild ancestors. I could ask, why breed a chicken that’s abnormally fatter than a jungle fowl and can’t fly as well? Or why breed a chicken with abnormal colors that aren’t camouflaged? Or a chicken that lays multiple eggs a week almost year round? Those are all mutations that we took advantage off and exaggerated from the original wild birds.

Darwin’s finches, if they were capable of so reasoning, would be thankful they had beak mutations that allowed them to adapt to various living conditions between islands.

Its not set in stone that I will breed this odd one. Its not even a sure thing he’s going to make it. Just now I checked the chicks in the brooder and Parrot Beak is lagging behind a bit on leg thickness and possibly size. I would reckon either due to not taking in nutrition as well as the others or due to further genetic or developmental differences. But I’m not taking the possibility of breeding off the table just because it would be distasteful to vary from defined parameters. If he can eat fine, the beak may make him hellacious at killing larger vermin if he also has the attitude to go with it. He may even develop an adaption for meat more akin to what the original Saipans were supposed to have. Which would be pretty darn cool.

Or he might just end up being a goofy chicken with a useless deformity that’s only ever mediocre at surviving.

I don’t see the harm in letting it play out. Parrot Beak has zero chance of making it central India to pollute the pure aseel lines there, or even to the gamefarm across the state.

 

[centrarchid]

Aseels are loaded with deformities when compared to the chickens they were derived from. Some are obviously beneficial to the way they are kept. Others are beneficial to they way they have been fought. Many of the modifications they have are forcing me to rethink how I am to keep and breed them.

 

[centrarchid]

Interesting thread.

The thread is getting way off track.

 

[Warrior gamefowl]

There’s stuff I can’t agree with but my knowledge on orientals begins and ends with a pair of jap/mug crosses. But they are interesting to me. A different style of bird.

 

[centrarchid]

There’s stuff I can’t agree with but my knowledge on orientals begins and ends with a pair of jap/mug crosses. But they are interesting to me. A different style of bird.

A jap cross is where I started last year. Very long legged and slow coming into courage. Gangly bird with good endurance, but poor speed and agility.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

I think in watching my Aseel mixes mature... I am pretty sure the one that I was unsure about the marks is a Ga Noi/Aseel and the other‘s shell was marked Thai/Aseel... so should be interesting to see how these two develop. They have the least amount of feathers out of all the chicks hatched or purchased around the same time. Full on Dinochickens so far...the little dinos have no fear.