Breeding Buff Leghorns

[ArieBLB]

Thanks for the earlier advice on the youngest male.

All the photos from the group you referred to above are pictures of the same male. I don't think I understand what you are saying. I've got a feeling that it is important and that I NEED to understand it. Could you try to explain it again to me? This is the photo you were referring to and I included the side profile of him.


Thanks,
Lisa

What I meant is this:


This is a hen with a perfectly implanted tail for the breed.
Picture is from http://www.nhdb.nl/Hoenders/


This is an incorrectly implanted tail. The tail feathers are implanted much like roof tiles.
Picture is from http://www.nhdb.nl/Hoenders/

I hope it's clear what I mean to say. I do not know how else to explain it in English. The tail of your male is between the tails I showed here.

 

[math ace]

What I meant is this:


This is a hen with a perfectly implanted tail for the breed.


This is an incorrectly implanted tail. The tail feathers are implanted much like roof tiles.

I hope it's clear what I mean to say. I do not know how else to explain it in English. The tail of your male is between the tails I showed here.

Thank you! The pictures helped a lot. Can you tell me what book or web site the photos came from. I would like to read more!

 

[ArieBLB]

Thank you! The pictures helped a lot. Can you tell me what book or web site the photos came from. I would like to read more!

Hello Lisa,

The information is from the site http://www.nhdb.nl/Hoenders/
The site is in Dutch but with google translate you can translate it a little.
The NHDB ( Nederlandse Bond van Hoender, Dwerghoender, Sier- en Watervogelhouders) is changed and have a new name KLN ( Kleindier Liefhebbers Nederland) aand the new site is http://www.kleindierliefhebbers.nl/

 

[math ace]

Hello Lisa,

The information is from the site http://www.nhdb.nl/Hoenders/
The site is in Dutch but with google translate you can translate it a little.
The NHDB ( Nederlandse Bond van Hoender, Dwerghoender, Sier- en Watervogelhouders) is changed and have a new name KLN ( Kleindier Liefhebbers Nederland) aand the new site is http://www.kleindierliefhebbers.nl/

Thank you... I will take a look at the web site...

 

[math ace]

Speaking of translations...

In each printing of the SOP, an artist is assigned the daunting task of translating the verbal description of a breed into a drawing for visual appreciation.
This morning, I was reading from "The Leghorns" a 1904 printing form the Reliable Poultry Journal. In it, there were several paragraphs dedicated to how the Sewall's drawing di not truly reflect the SOP aspects of the leghorns...

Specifically, the article claimed that Sewall's drawing has too "blocky style" in the male, the comb and tail were "Too Minorca like", the wattles were too long, the ear lobes were too large, the neck was too large, too full, or too heavy, the saddle had insufficient filling, the tail was too low, the legs were too short and too stout.

I understand that Karen Plumer was the artist for the most recent publication of the SOP... I am wondering what aspects of the drawing do not truly reflect the standard....
On her web site, I found a couple of her drawings. The first one is copy righted by the APA and I am assuming it was the one used in the SOP.
It is for a red leghorn...

http://blog.katherineplumer.com/2006/12/large-black-tailed-red-leghorns.html


Here is a later leghorn (light brown) drawing from her.
http://blog.katherineplumer.com/2007/06/light-brown-leghorn-rooster-done.html

Notice the added length to the legs and thighs when compared to the previous drawing.
Also, notice the lower wing set in this photo!

I am confused as to which bird correctly reflects the standard for TYPE.

COMMENTS welcome

 

[math ace]

" which bird correctly reflects the standard for TYPE"

 

[ve]

The red one is better

 

[math ace]

Wing Set....

Does it change as the bird ages?
If the bird has a nice high wing set at 12 weeks, is it likely to still have the same nice wing set as an adult?

 

[math ace]

OK... My last question went unanswered, so let me throw another one out there.

Is there a relationship between the long legs in the leghorn breed and an increased frequency in knocked knee issues?

Is there a relationship between the Knock Kneed issues and pinch tail issues?

Where does the knocked knee issue come from?

 

[danhonour]

If the bird is wide(wide back,wide skull ,wide shoulders) and strong it is not likily to be knock kneed. Weak birds that are inbred tend to be knock kneed. Yes tall birds may be prone towards knock kneed but but it bis because they are not balanced with width and strength. Knock knees is hereditary.