breeding cornish x

[taxidermist]

I often read it's difficult to get cornish x to breeding age( I hadone live 4 years) and if you do they have trouble breeding due to size.
And if they do successfully breed the offspring do not breed true because the parents are a 4th generation hybrid.
Anyone have pics of such offspring?
BUT. .... what do the offspring look like? What are their characteristics? I know they grow slower than their parents and this is mainly because at that point they are no longer x hybrids.

What would occur if you bred the offspring of 2 cornish x rocks/f1 generation to another hybrid such as a dark Cornish x deleware?
That should continue the hybrid vigor with good size and growth.
Of course other factors will be considered such as the quality of the cornish x deleware lineage.
Just my .02

 

[JJSS89]

I don't know really, I have never focused on genetics for meaties. If things got bad enough to where I couldn't buy cornish X rocks for $1.50 / piece then I'd probably just raise and caponize Delawares or Jersey Giants.

 

[5 Acre Rooster]

Check out "My meat project" thread. I have 4 pullets saved from last year that I have hatched from. Mostly X breed males with the 1st batch. The next set should be all Austra-White sired. I have a postage scale I am using to weigh them. The dams are quite different though. 2 are smaller and 1 big girl. And the last is absolutely a giant hen. I have pictures of the chicks at under 1 week old. I will get some more pictures as they grow.
There is a non-CX in with them. I know it is because of the feathered feet. I have 15 due to hatch on the 30th and will tag and record weights D1. I still have these girls with the A-W but am thinking about moving him out and a BSL rooster in. I should weigh the roos and see whos got the size. The A-W is a great sized bird, for having a WLH mother. But with grandparents of DP x2 rather than 1 being light-weigh might make a lot of difference.

 

[LindaB220]

I often read it's difficult to get cornish x to breeding age( I hadone live 4 years) and if you do they have trouble breeding due to size.
And if they do successfully breed the offspring do not breed true because the parents are a 4th generation hybrid.
Anyone have pics of such offspring?
BUT. .... what do the offspring look like? What are their characteristics? I know they grow slower than their parents and this is mainly because at that point they are no longer x hybrids.

What would occur if you bred the offspring of 2 cornish x rocks/f1 generation to another hybrid such as a dark Cornish x deleware?
That should continue the hybrid vigor with good size and growth.
Of course other factors will be considered such as the quality of the cornish x deleware lineage.
Just my .02

Good luck with your endeavors.

 

[LindaB220]

I don't know really, I have never focused on genetics for meaties. If things got bad enough to where I couldn't buy cornish X rocks for $1.50 / piece then I'd probably just raise and caponize Delawares or Jersey Giants.

Very good advice. Do you caponize. I have the Chinese tools but no chickens big enough yet.

 

[JJSS89]

Very good advice. Do you caponize. I have the Chinese tools but no chickens big enough yet.

Yeah I have before. I raised 120+ Rhode Island Reds and the 70+ males were all caponized (long day!) I kept them until they were nine months old and butchered them (another long day) but the result was some darn tasty birds.

I lost 3 of those birds which wasn't too bad and two slipped and were let to live with the hens

Let me know how those tools work out for you. The only thing I've used is a scalpel and forceps. I've never stitched afterwards. I think that is more for the peace of mind of the operator IMHO.

 

[LindaB220]

Yeah I have before. I raised 120+ Rhode Island Reds and the 70+ males were all caponized (long day!) I kept them until they were nine months old and butchered them (another long day) but the result was some darn tasty birds.

I lost 3 of those birds which wasn't too bad and two slipped and were let to live with the hens

Let me know how those tools work out for you. The only thing I've used is a scalpel and forceps. I've never stitched afterwards. I think that is more for the peace of mind of the operator IMHO.

Fantastic!!! Check out page 109 of thread of Graphic Pics of my day learning to caponize. It is a pic tutorial of the new Chinese tools. Then go to the end and say Hi everyone will be glad to meet you. Stitching is not advised. Not necessary.

 

[WaterfowlWierdo]

Yeah I have before. I raised 120+ Rhode Island Reds and the 70+ males were all caponized (long day!) I kept them until they were nine months old and butchered them (another long day) but the result was some darn tasty birds.

I lost 3 of those birds which wasn't too bad and two slipped and were let to live with the hens

Let me know how those tools work out for you. The only thing I've used is a scalpel and forceps. I've never stitched afterwards. I think that is more for the peace of mind of the operator IMHO.

Does caponizing stop the crowing? I have a new chick that I believe is a rooster, and I live in the city so i cant have crowing......Also Is it difficult? like have you ever messed up?

 

[JJSS89]

Yeah a capon won't crow. I messed up a few but overall it was a resounding success in my book.

Messed up means you get a "slip" which does the ol' Houdini trick and manages to maintain a fragment of the jewel(s) and remain a cockerel. Or it means the bird dies.

 

[WaterfowlWierdo]

Yeah a capon won't crow. I messed up a few but overall it was a resounding success in my book.

Messed up means you get a "slip" which does the ol' Houdini trick and manages to maintain a fragment of the jewel(s) and remain a cockerel. Or it means the bird dies.

Ok, good! Can you capon a mature rooster? Cuz I can get lots of free ones to practice on first so I will do well with the one that matters.....dont know what I would do If something went wrong with that bird!