Breeding Delawares to the Standard of Perfection

[crazyhen]

Looks like a male to me. My males from Kathy always have a lot more color than the females and the comb is a bit large, wattles starting too. No, about the hatchery birds,hatchery dels were inter bred with white leghorns so the coloring is much whiter at this time. The later Kathy birds have a bit less color also. good luck with your project.

 

[caychris]

Looks like a male to me. My males from Kathy always have a lot more color than the females and the comb is a bit large, wattles starting too. No, about the hatchery birds,hatchery dels were inter bred with white leghorns so the coloring is much whiter at this time. The later Kathy birds have a bit less color also. good luck with your project.

At this point in time if I might want to try breeding him back to my hatchery Dels just to see what happens. My hatchery ones are from Privet

 

[DuckBoy]

At this point in time if I might want to try breeding him back to my hatchery Dels just to see what happens. My hatchery ones are from Privet

Ive heard you can breed them back to new hampshire once to improve things

 

[caychris]

Right now I am in the city so cant have a roo and do not have breeding space yet. Might be able to borrow some to grow him out and see what he is like. Ill need more space to get him some girls. Im wondering about the NH breeding programs and I understand Kathy used German NH. Which are newer than the stock Ellis may have used. Between that and the mud that are Rocks getting to a standard this far removed may be a bit more difficult.

 

[crazyhen]

I thought the NH were actually older than the hatchery types. We actually sent them to Germany after the war and they kept them pure. Here they were as usual mixed. The hatcheries want eggs not color or contour. Am I wrong on my facts??

 

[caychris]

I thought the NH were actually older than the hatchery types. We actually sent them to Germany after the war and they kept them pure. Here they were as usual mixed. The hatcheries want eggs not color or contour. Am I wrong on my facts??

This is what I was referring to


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If the German NH is a more recent import and Delawares were created in the 40's from NH of the time period Dels created from German NH may or may not have difficulty getting to standard.

At least that's what I would think.

 

[caychris]

Kept them pure is a subjective term I would think. They would have their own breeding programs that may have begun to weed out genes needed for the sports. If they do more accurately resemble a 1930's NH then more of the trouble comes from the Rock side of the cross. The real question is do they.

 

[Serica]

Here's our start into Delawares. Our cockerel Tuck, and 2 pullets. They were hatched at the end of May. There's a third pullet but getting them all together seems a challenge . We are so excited with these guys!!!

 

[finnfur]

This is what I was referring to






If the German NH is a more recent import and Delawares were created in the 40's from NH of the time period Dels created from German NH may or may not have difficulty getting to standard.

At least that's what I would think.

I interpret that information as saying the 40s NH in US was turned to the production breed we see at hatcheries now. We exported the original and German breeders kept it true to type.
So I would surmise that is the bird Ellis used . That bird is now more represented by the German re-imported NH than our current production US NH .
Not to say you couldn't find some one that keep the strain true in the US but it was rare.
The pics in your link show production and heritage NH hens- The one they call heritage looks like German to me and seems to represent what the Del hen SOP pic shows n the APA standard.
I am by no way an expert on any of this and it is IMHO .

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

Pretty much all my hatchery birds and their mutts have those funny little pinched tails shown in the hatchery birds at caychris's link. It is one of the reasons I'm excited about working with some heritage birds ... I'm eagerly awaiting tails from the Delaware chicks I've hatched this year.