Breeding for Isabel Ameraucanas - is this pairing possible?

[Yard Farmer]

Fawn is created by the Dun gene.

Okay, so they are not the same.

If I bred a self blue to a SDW OEGB, would I get isabel?

 

[MysteryChicken]

Okay, so they are not the same.

If I bred a self blue to a SDW OEGB, would I get isabel?

Not right away, they'd be split for Lavender. You would have to either breed offspring together, or breed back to lavender parent.

 

[Yard Farmer]

Not right away, they'd be split for Lavender. You would have to either breed offspring together, or breed back to lavender parent.

I assume you'd breed the birds with the most prominent Isabel coloring to lavender parent, then breed for color?

 

[MysteryChicken]

I assume you'd breed the birds with the most prominent Isabel coloring to lavender parent, then breed for color?

The first generation offspring won't have the isabel coloring, that's why breeding the Splits together, or back to the lavender parents is necessary for adding the extra lavender gene for the isabel coloring to show.

Lavender Splits look like regular blacks, or duckwings.

 

[Amer]

Gorgeous EE rooster! I love his coloring, reminds me of red shouldered Yokohamas. Tentatively, I'd call his coloring red Columbian mottled though since he is a mix it's hard to officially name him.
I don't know what E base he has so it's really hard to say what kind of coloring Lavender would produce
I really would like to see Lavender plus Mahogany would look like though.
I polled some folks to create a genotype that I would draw and somehow they chose for it to be both Mahogany and lavender and I just have no idea how those genes would interact.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Gorgeous EE rooster! I love his coloring, reminds me of red shouldered Yokohamas. Tentatively, I'd call his coloring red Columbian mottled though since he is a mix it's hard to officially name him.
I don't know what E base he has so it's really hard to say what kind of coloring Lavender would produce
I really would like to see Lavender plus Mahogany would look like though.
I polled some folks to create a genotype that I would draw and somehow they chose for it to be both Mahogany and lavender and I just have no idea how those genes would interact.

Calculator gives a clue.

 

[Amer]

Calculator gives a clue.View attachment 4024523

That's not a real photo though, so who really knows how accurate it is. Fortunately, in the last 20 minutes of polling, not lavender won out by one vote (it was tied before) so I guess I can remain safely ignorant. But lavender was winning.

 

[MysteryChicken]

That's not a real photo though, so who really knows how accurate it is. Fortunately, in the last 20 minutes of polling, not lavender won out by one vote (it was tied before) so I guess I can remain safely ignorant. But lavender was winning.
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I know it's not a real picture, but I only did it to get an idea of what it would look like.

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

Gorgeous EE rooster! I love his coloring, reminds me of red shouldered Yokohamas. Tentatively, I'd call his coloring red Columbian mottled though since he is a mix it's hard to officially name him.
I don't know what E base he has so it's really hard to say what kind of coloring Lavender would produce
I really would like to see Lavender plus Mahogany would look like though.
I polled some folks to create a genotype that I would draw and somehow they chose for it to be both Mahogany and lavender and I just have no idea how those genes would interact.

Okay obviously I'm unsure of sourcing of this bird but if from a mixed flock of pure breds, is Blue Laced Red Wyandotte x EE plausible? It would explain walnut comb and his type is more similar to a Wyandotte than most EEs I've seen. I just feel like the resemblance is really there and although a conclusion is impossible to reach without knowing parents, he just seems very similar. Perhaps it's not because he looks to have two copies of beard gene... Regardless just an interesting looking bird!

 

[MysteryChicken]

Little Dude's father carried Mahogany, but his mother was Silver, so he's sex-linked Gold/Silver Split, & either carries one, or two copies of Mahogany but it don't show due to the silver.