Breeding for Isabel Ameraucanas - is this pairing possible?

[FrknFaerie]

Unfortunately your Ameraucana isn’t pure. He’s got the wrong comb type and leg color His coloring is also a little off for a splash wheaten.

What would you say his color is? Just from online searching, he looked closest to blue wheaten splash but I’m also still super novice.

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

What would you say his color is? Just from online searching, he looked closest to blue wheaten splash but I’m also still super novice.

He's a mixed variety. There's no pretty name for it. @Amer gave suggestions of the genetics. He is a mixed breed as well. He had a walnut comb rather than a pea comb indicating he has the rose comb gene in him.

 

[MysteryChicken]

He's a mixed variety. There's no pretty name for it. @Amer gave suggestions of the genetics. He is a mixed breed as well. He had a walnut comb rather than a pea comb indicating he has the rose comb gene in him.

Looking closer at the Rooster, he appears to be a Green Queen(Easter Egger), he's got 5 toes which they have on occasion.

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

Looking closer at the Rooster, he appears to be a Green Queen(Easter Egger), he's got 5 toes which they have on occasion.

Ope I missed the fifth toe. That definitely checks. Multigenerational mix then

 

[Amer]

Little Dude's father carried Mahogany, but his mother was Silver, so he's sex-linked Gold/Silver Split, & either carries one, or two copies of Mahogany but it don't show due to the silver.View attachment 4024662

Even with silver, mahogany should still show. I can see it on his shoulder, interesting. Thanks, now I know. It's as I suspected.

 

[Yard Farmer]

The first generation offspring won't have the isabel coloring, that's why breeding the Splits together, or back to the lavender parents is necessary for adding the extra lavender gene for the isabel coloring to show.

Lavender Splits look like regular blacks, or duckwings.

I was doing a bit more research, and I saw a lot of people using the BB red color bred to self blue to get Isabel.

Would that work, too? Do you just need some sort of duckwing pattern bred to lavender (self blue) to get the Isabel color?

 

[MysteryChicken]

I was doing a bit more research, and I saw a lot of people using the BB red color bred to self blue to get Isabel.

Would that work, too? Do you just need some sort of duckwing pattern bred to lavender (self blue) to get the Isabel color?

BB Red is fine so is Silver Duckwing to use for Isabel. I was using those for answering your questions.

Isabel is just Lavender Duckwing, so Lavender(Self Blue) is required to add the gene.

 

[Amer]

I was doing a bit more research, and I saw a lot of people using the BB red color bred to self blue to get Isabel.

Would that work, too? Do you just need some sort of duckwing pattern bred to lavender (self blue) to get the Isabel color?

Yes but the lavender gene is recessive. Simplified: isabel is the lavender gene plus the duckwing gene. Self blue is the lavender gene on the black gene. You need to breed the offspring together to get Isabels. They will only be a small percentage of the offspring so you will have to hatch a lot.
Both duckwing and lavender are recessive genes

 

[MysteryChicken]

Yes but the lavender gene is recessive. Simplified: isabel is the lavender gene plus the duckwing gene. Self blue is the lavender gene on the black gene. You need to breed the offspring together to get Isabels. They will only be a small percentage of the offspring so you will have to hatch a lot.
Both duckwing and lavender are recessive genes

Duckwing is Intermediate, it's both Dominant, or Recessive depending on what other genes are present.

 

[Amer]

Duckwing is Intermediate, it's both Dominant, or Recessive depending on what other genes are present.

That's why I said simplified
It is recessive to black.