BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[gjensen]

Here's a bit of info on soaking oats or actually fermenting them. They are hard to do and this info is worth taking a look at Chris 09 posted it on another thread.

Simple recipe -
Take a plastic container with a tight fitting lid and add the amount of oats that you will be using for one days feeding in it.
Add enough water to cover the oats about 2 inches and cover.
The next day a good bit of that water should be soaked up and you will have to add more water to cover the oats again.
Keep doing this until the oats don't soak up anymore water.
When the oats stop soaking up water it is done and is ready for feeding.
*Note - You can substitute some or all the water with apple juice. (the good stuff thats unfiltered and looks like they ground the tree up with the apples)

This is a little more complex and meant to feed a lot of birds. Also I found it on the net sometime back.

SOAKED OATS RECIPE
By Alan Butler
Use whole not rolled or crimped oats. The oats mixture does not affect the taste of the eggs nor the taste of the meat of the fowl.
Here is how I do my mix.....the oats do not smell bad and the fowl LOVE them.
1) Get a thirty two gallon PLASTIC heavy duty garbage container with a lid.
2) Into this container add the following ingredients:
1 cup of RED CELL vitamins
1 12oz (340 grams) container of the cheap brand of ground cinnamon
1 packet of vitamin / electrolyte powder
4 quarts of vegetable juice concentrate
3) Fill the container half full of water and stir all the ingredients thoroughly.
4) Add 100 lbs (45.5 Kg.) of whole recleaned Race Horse oats
5) Fill the container with water and cover.
6) after 24 hours add more water and do so everyday until the oats no longer soak it up.
I usually wait 5 to 7 days before I feed them depending on the outside temperature.
I feed a mix that has 25% oats in it. With this mix they do not smell or "go bad".
It seems to me from my experience with my fowl that the longer they soak the better the fowl love them.

Linda, gamecock breeders have been soaking oats for their fowl for a very long time. It is a time tested part of a feeding regimen. I wonder why it is not discussed more other than the labor involved in preparing it.

A couple questions I have about this recipe.

Why a vitamin powder and the red cell? That does not make sense to me. For the same reason I wonder about the vegetable juice. What is the cinnamon supposed to do? Based on what I know (or do not know), the red cell is the only ingredient I would add.

This method (for me) would be for periods of maintenance, and if I had quality bulk oats available. As much as it costs to buy a bag of oats where I am, I would just stick with straight feed.

 

[LindaB220]

Linda, gamecock breeders have been soaking oats for their fowl for a very long time. It is a time tested part of a feeding regimen. I wonder why it is not discussed more other than the labor involved in preparing it.

A couple questions I have about this recipe.

Why a vitamin powder and the red cell? That does not make sense to me. For the same reason I wonder about the vegetable juice. What is the cinnamon supposed to do? Based on what I know (or do not know), the red cell is the only ingredient I would add.

This method (for me) would be for periods of maintenance, and if I had quality bulk oats available. As much as it costs to buy a bag of oats where I am, I would just stick with straight feed.

Yeah, I bought a 50# bag of racehorse oats that my chicks wouldn't eat. This is just a large way of incorporating it into my fermented feed regimen. I asked and this is what Chris09 came up with. I like it. I'd probably put azomite and nutridench in it instead of vit powder and I don't know what red cell is.

 

[gjensen]

Yeah, I bought a 50# bag of racehorse oats that my chicks wouldn't eat. This is just a large way of incorporating it into my fermented feed regimen. I asked and this is what Chris09 came up with. I like it. I'd probably put azomite and nutridench in it instead of vit powder and I don't know what red cell is.

Red cell is a vitamin mineral supplement. Chris is pretty sharp, so maybe there is a good reason for the others. Personally, I would just stick with the red cell.

I am getting ready to buy a 55 gallon drum of oats if the quality is acceptable. I will be experimenting with it. I have fed my birds soaked oats, and they like them. I could not get the to eat them otherwise, unless they had nothing else to eat. LOL.

 

[neopolitancrazy]

um, I sprouted oats for my chickens, and did not work this hard at it. I soaked oats 24-48 hrs depending on my schedule, spread them out on a screen, covered to keep out the light until showing sprouts, fed them when they had 1-2" of green leaves. I did mist occasionally to keep them from drying out. I did not add any flavorings/supplements The birds seemed very happy to get them at first. The longer I have been on the gamebird feed, however, the less avidly they attack other foods.
Best wishes,
Angela

 

[LindaB220]

um, I sprouted oats for my chickens, and did not work this hard at it. I soaked oats 24-48 hrs depending on my schedule, spread them out on a screen, covered to keep out the light until showing sprouts, fed them when they had 1-2" of green leaves. I did mist occasionally to keep them from drying out. I did not add any flavorings/supplements The birds seemed very happy to get them at first. The longer I have been on the gamebird feed, however, the less avidly they attack other foods.
Best wishes,
Angela

I'm really more interested in fermenting it. The racehorse oats I had did not sprout.. After soaking for days and rinsing 3 x daily about 1/5 of them had thin spikes. Not worth it. Because the hull was so hard. They didn't eat it.

 

[gjensen]

What I tend to call soaked oats is fermented. I should make it more clear. Oat sprouts or fermented oats. Both are good supplements.

What I want to do is cut costs during periods of maintenance, and not have to make a change in the feed. I do not want to mess with the ration when I am wanting to set eggs.

 

[southernmomma]

Here's a bit of info on soaking oats or actually fermenting them. They are hard to do and this info is worth taking a look at Chris 09 posted it on another thread.

Simple recipe -
Take a plastic container with a tight fitting lid and add the amount of oats that you will be using for one days feeding in it.
Add enough water to cover the oats about 2 inches and cover.
The next day a good bit of that water should be soaked up and you will have to add more water to cover the oats again.
Keep doing this until the oats don't soak up anymore water.
When the oats stop soaking up water it is done and is ready for feeding.
*Note - You can substitute some or all the water with apple juice. (the good stuff thats unfiltered and looks like they ground the tree up with the apples)

This is a little more complex and meant to feed a lot of birds. Also I found it on the net sometime back.

SOAKED OATS RECIPE
By Alan Butler
Use whole not rolled or crimped oats. The oats mixture does not affect the taste of the eggs nor the taste of the meat of the fowl.
Here is how I do my mix.....the oats do not smell bad and the fowl LOVE them.
1) Get a thirty two gallon PLASTIC heavy duty garbage container with a lid.
2) Into this container add the following ingredients:
1 cup of RED CELL vitamins
1 12oz (340 grams) container of the cheap brand of ground cinnamon
1 packet of vitamin / electrolyte powder
4 quarts of vegetable juice concentrate
3) Fill the container half full of water and stir all the ingredients thoroughly.
4) Add 100 lbs (45.5 Kg.) of whole recleaned Race Horse oats
5) Fill the container with water and cover.
6) after 24 hours add more water and do so everyday until the oats no longer soak it up.
I usually wait 5 to 7 days before I feed them depending on the outside temperature.
I feed a mix that has 25% oats in it. With this mix they do not smell or "go bad".
It seems to me from my experience with my fowl that the longer they soak the better the fowl love them.

Gosh, are you eating this?

M

 

[southernmomma]

Well, all my birds are doing great. So far no death losses on the 25 Cornish x's and Pioneers along with the 23 New Hampshire's I got at the end of May. The new Hampshire's seem huge for their age.

Someone mentioned feeding fermented feed and I'm probably not going to do so. It looks like it takes planning and a little extra work to pull off. I'm hoping to save on feed costs by using chicken tractors to add some forage to the diet.

It also appears we're in the pig business. On Saturday someone stopped in with a little pig. Her daughter was driving and this piglet ran out on the road. She stopped and picked him up and took him home to her mom. They both came to our farm looking for a home for the pig.

Well, turns out 'Wilber' is an escape artists. An hour after he arrived I was about to go to my cousins for some pig feed and saw him out. I got him, put him in his pen and went to get feed. I returned to find him gone, and we couldn't find him. A few hours later after milking I was going up the pasture lane to close the fence for the cows for the night. I look at the clearing in the woods and am sure I see this pig jogging along. The clearing is nearly 500 yards away from his original destination and it is across a stream and some swampy areas. This morning my father notices the pig in the heifer pasture and we go to pick him up. I get there and see a scene straight of a 'Babe' movie as it appears he is talking to a heifer which is just feet away. Anyway, we catch him and put him in another pen with more security.

Is it you that has the orchard or someone else?
With cattle and now a pig...are you planning to free range? I wonder if it would be less work to just let them follow the cows rather than lugging tractors around.

M

 

[LindaB220]

Gosh, are you eating this?

M

It sure sounds nutritious, doesn't it? It's just a beefed up version of fermented feeds. I just wanted a recipe for soaking oats that my birds will eat.

 

[3riverschick]

Oh call me the old stick in the mud. I like to feed my birds fresh green sprouted "green feed".
I think it's more "natural". I know that takes a tiny bit of planning but once one gets the
program going ...in 5 days they can have preptetual fresh "green feed" for the birds.
Best,
Karen