Breeding for Variation in Color& some pics of my birds

[tadkerson]

The barring gene will dilute the red females to a buff and the barring is difficult to see on black tailed red females. The black tailed red males on the other hand show the barring but nothing like that found on an extended black bird. The barring gene works well on extended black but not very well on other primary colors. I am experimenting with the barred gene on different primary color patterns. I think you will be disappointed with the results. I will load pictures later of my rhodebars and my experimental birds.

This is a Rhodebar male

This is his brother.

You can see how much the barring gene dilutes his color.

This is his sister. You can see how the barring gene dilutes the color to a buff. She should look like her sister below

another sister, she is actually darker than the picture shows, more mahogany and less red

The following bird is of a completely different genotype nd the barring is not very good on her also. I will work some on this variety to improve the barring.

Tim

 

[Germaine_11.20]

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The leaking of color can be caused by certain genotypes ( genes in a bird) but can be over come in future generations.

If the bird is the only blue cochin you have to use, use it to breed with another self black (solid black female). Pick a female that has the darkest head and hackle feathers to cross with the male. The cross will produce more leaking males but it will also produce birds that are self black. Then use the self black birds to breed in the future. The genetics behind the problem will determine how many chicks you will have to hatch. If you can hatch 25 or so it would be great but hatch as many as you can. If you hatch too few you may not get the correct gene combination to produce the bird you want.



Tim

Tim, thank you! I appreciate your help and the time and effort to answer questions. You are very kind.

 

[tadkerson]

You are welcome.

Tim

 

[kathyinmo]

Tim,
I hope you don't mind that I revive this old thread. I am very interested in buff and red barred birds.
I am working on a project to create Delawares. As expected, the first cross (BR male x NH female), resulted in all barred F1s.
I mated the F1s and got a variety. I kept only the yellow (Delaware) and buff colored chicks. (Which was bout 30 chicks out of 200 hatched)
Anyway, here are some pictures of the F2s. All the buff colored chicks ended up being females (Buff Columbian and Buff Barred). What would I do to get Buff Barred in both male and female?

 

[nicalandia]

are you shooting for Gold Delawares? or normal silver ones? .

just use a normal NH Rooster over them... 100% of the boys will be heterozygous Barring. but he hens wont. its ok just breed these barred boys back to the barred hens and you will get barred hens too...

lets use the chicken calculator
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

this is what you will be doing...

Tim,
I hope you don't mind that I revive this old thread. I am very interested in buff and red barred birds.
I am working on a project to create Delawares. As expected, the first cross (BR male x NH female), resulted in all barred F1s.
I mated the F1s and got a variety. I kept only the yellow (Delaware) and buff colored chicks. (Which was bout 30 chicks out of 200 hatched)
Anyway, here are some pictures of the F2s. All the buff colored chicks ended up being females (Buff Columbian and Buff Barred). What would I do to get Buff Barred in both male and female?

 

[nicalandia]

one word of advise. if you are shooting for gold delawares... they will be more like Barred NH instead. the boys will lack the marked black barring found on Delawares.

 

[kathyinmo]

one word of advise. if you are shooting for gold delawares... they will be more like Barred NH instead. the boys will lack the marked black barring found on Delawares.

I am not talking about the Delaware project. This is something besides that. I don't know what it is..... I am just looking to make some buff barred birds that breed true. The above is what I have here now.

 

[nicalandia]

I am not talking about the Delaware project. This is something besides that. I don't know what it is..... I am just looking to make some buff barred birds that breed true. The above is what I have here now.

then just use a NH roo over your barred hens... that´s all

 

[AnimalCrazed]

Those are some cool looking mixes!! you should look up the "mixed breed photo reference" thread and post your results there too! I know they would love them... I do!