bubbles coming from mouth

[casportpony]

Do some research on both canker and yeast and see what it looks like to you.

 

[casportpony]

Her cleft looks clean, so I don't think it's a sinus infection. If I had to put money on it, I would say canker...

 

[casportpony]

Just had a thought... Canker is more common in pigeons, so you might want to post in the pigeon forum and ask them to look at your pictures.

 

[wantbantams]

Can you tell me how you came to that thought? I am just curious. Would the whole flock need treated? No one else has the symptoms. Is there anything natural that I can use. I feel like my chickens have gotten every possible illness known to man. Why are they getting sick? They are free range. I have been fighting illness since October with these guys. They have had some sort of respiratory infection and I have treated them with Tylan 200 and Denagard. I also treated them for worms with Wazine. This has been a process since November.

 

[casportpony]

Can you tell me how you came to that thought? I am just curious.
I've also had issues with my flock, so I've purchased a bunch of veterinary books and have been doing a lot of research on diseases. The symptoms you described sounded more like something that I read about canker and the lack of pus in the sinus area makes me think it's not a sinus infection. I'm no expert, but I think it could be one of three things, canker, a URI or a fungal infection.

Would the whole flock need treated?
No, only the sick one(s)

No one else has the symptoms. Is there anything natural that I can use.
I don't know.

I feel like my chickens have gotten every possible illness known to man.
What have they had?

Why are they getting sick? They are free range. I have been fighting illness since October with these guys.
I've know how you feel... I've been treating blackhead (histomoniasis) and the secondary infections in my turkeys and peafowl for 1.5 years now. My flock also has Marek's, for which there is no treatment.

They have had some sort of respiratory infection and I have treated them with Tylan 200 and Denagard.
This is why sometimes I'll take one of mine to the vet. She'll send of a sample for culture and sensitivity testing. That tells us what antibiotic to use.

I also treated them for worms with Wazine.
Wazine (piperazine) only kills one type of worm, the roundworm. I would treat all of them with Safeguard/Panacur liquid or paste (fenbendazole) or Valbazen (albendazole).

This has been a process since November.
If I were you, I would try worming them with a different wormer and dust them and their coop for mites/lice with poultry dust, not with DE.

From my AAAP Avian Disease Manual

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]D. TRICHOMONIASIS [/FONT][/FONT]


(Canker in pigeons and doves; Frounce in falcons)
DEFINITION
Trichomoniasis is caused by

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Trichomonas gallinae[/FONT][/FONT], a flagellated protozoan. Pathogenicity varies
greatly by strain. The disease is characterized by raised caseous lesions in the upper digestive tract, but
may extend to other tissues. Pigeons, doves, turkeys, chickens and raptors are commonly affected.
HISTORICAL INFORMATION
Trichomoniasis was once recognized as an important disease of turkeys and chickens, especially of
ranged turkeys, but is seldom reported now. Conversely, trichomoniasis in pigeons and doves continues to
be a common and significant disease. Trichomoniasis may have played a role in the extinction of the
carrier pigeon. Trichomoniasis can be a consequential disease in raptors.
EPIDEMIOLOGY
1. The organism is fragile in the environment and transmission occurs only through contact with infected
oral secretions or through water contaminated by oral secretions of carriers. Pigeons are believed to be
the natural hosts and primary carriers. The prevalence of the infection is near 100% for adult pigeons.
Carrier birds show no signs or lesions.
2. Pigeons and doves transmit trichomonads to their young during feeding of regurgitated partially
digested crop content (pigeon milk). Transmission in raptors (hawks, owls, eagles, etc.) And their
young, is through ingestion of infected prey. Turkeys and chickens probably contract the disease after
consuming stagnant surface water containing

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]T. gallinae[/FONT][/FONT]. Other disease may predispose turkeys to
clinical trichomoniasis.
3. In established flocks or lofts, trichomoniasis may only be noted as a clinical disease after introduction
of a more virulent strain of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]T. gallinae [/FONT][/FONT]by new birds or exposure to wildlife carriers.
DIAGNOSIS
1. Typical signs and lesions are very suggestive of the diagnosis. In pigeons, doves and raptors, yellow
plaques or raised cheesy masses involve the upper digestive tract. Masses often are large and conical
or pyramidal and can be surprisingly invasive in soft tissue. Lesions are usually most extensive in the
mouth, pharynx or esophagus but may occur at other sites including the crop, proventriculus or sinuses.
In raptors, lesions may also occur in the liver and are accompanied by peritonitis.
2. Infected squab (baby pigeons) become depressed and die at 7-10 days of age. Lesions of the oral
cavity are most common but may also occur in the nasal turbinates and brain. The infection may
become systemic, with lesions in the liver and other visceral organs.
3. Adults pigeons, doves and raptors often have difficulty in closing their mouth because of lesions in the
oral cavity. They drool and make repeated swallowing movements. Watery eyes may be apparent in
occasional birds with lesions in the sinuses or periorbital area. Rare cases with penetrating cranial
lesions may show signs of central nervous disturbances, including loss of balance.
4. Lesions are similar in turkeys but frequently are found only in the crop and upper or lower esophagus.
Occasionally the proventriculus contains lesions. Infected turkeys often have a gaunt appearance with
a hollowed area over the crop. Swallowing movements often are apparent and infected birds may have​

an unpleasant odor (“sour crop”).

5. Morbidity and mortality in affected birds varies but can be quite high. Demonstration of trichomonads
in the oral fluids may not be significant in the absence of lesions since many normal birds have some
trichomonads. Small plaques in the mucosa should not be confused with pox or candidiasis.
CONTROL
1. Eliminate any known infected birds and all suspected carriers. If possible, depopulate at regular
intervals and thoroughly clean and disinfect the premises. Add no birds to an established flock since
they may be carriers of a more virulent strain. Permit no contact among pigeons, doves and
susceptible poultry.
2. Provide a source of clean, fresh water, preferably running water being replaced constantly. Eliminate
all sources of stagnant water. Disinfect watering containers and water lines regularly (e.g. chlorine).
3. Avoid feeding infected pigeons and doves to captive raptors.
TREATMENT
There is currently no approved medication for treatment of trichomoniasis in food animals. Birds not
being raised for food can be effectively treated individually with metronidazole (Flagyl) at a dose of 30​

mg/kg orally SID for 5 days, or with Enheptin.

 

[wantbantams]

Can you tell me how you came to that thought? I am just curious.
I've also had issues with my flock, so I've purchased a bunch of veterinary books and have been doing a lot of research on diseases. The symptoms you described sounded more like something that I read about canker and the lack of pus in the sinus area makes me think it's not a sinus infection. I'm no expert, but I think it could be one of three things, canker, a URI or a fungal infection.

I feel like my chickens have gotten every possible illness known to man.
What have they had?
I got a few chickens from the Ohio National chicken show and after a few weeks introduced them to my flock. I know it was my fault that I did not wait for a full month, but they seemed fine. Well, one got sick and I took her to the vet for testing. (She is alive). She came back with a variety of bacteria in her throat, but was tested negative for mycoplasma? and anything that would be cause her to be a carrier. She was put on a medicine through a nebulizer and she got better (after living inside for over a month in our living room ) When she got back outside multiple chickens had puffy and bubbly eyes. I treated them all with Tylan 200. No progress. I treated them with Denagard. No progress. It seems like each day that I go out a different chicken has foamy eyes and runny nose. No gross smell. The bubbly eyes last a day and then it is gone. I am at a loss. Then I went out last week and this girl has bubbles from her mouth (totally new symptom). The chickens are still coughing a little bit. Some are rattly, but they are all happy and eating well. They do not smell gross. They are playing outside (even though there is snow on the ground). They forage when the weather is nice. They run around like maniacs especially to me . I just love them and want them to be better. The weather has been a wild ride of very cold and windy to warm weather here in Ohio so I blame some on the stress from the temperature changes. I have not had any chickens die from illness. I have 20 girls and I am getting about 8 eggs per day. I think that this is pretty normal considering that I have 3 broodies (which I am just letting be broody) and it is the middle of winter.

Why are they getting sick? They are free range. I have been fighting illness since October with these guys.
I've know how you feel... I've been treating blackhead (histomoniasis) and the secondary infections in my turkeys and peafowl for 1.5 years now. My flock also has Marek's, for which there is no treatment. At least you are loving on them.

They have had some sort of respiratory infection and I have treated them with Tylan 200 and Denagard.
This is why sometimes I'll take one of mine to the vet. She'll send of a sample for culture and sensitivity testing. That tells us what antibiotic to use. I did take my Little Sparrow (a light brahma to the vet and the medicine that they recommended did not help )

I also treated them for worms with Wazine.
Wazine (piperazine) only kills one type of worm, the roundworm. I would treat all of them with Safeguard/Panacur liquid or paste (fenbendazole) or Valbazen (albendazole).
I 2 weeks later gave them Valbazen.

This has been a process since November.
If I were you, I would try worming them with a different wormer and dust them and their coop for mites/lice with poultry dust, not with DE.
I dusted them for mites about 3 weeks ago. I check them regularly and do not see any mites/lice present.

I did buy some oxine AH and I plan on using that in my coop as soon as it comes in as a sterilizer. I was going to have my chickens stay in there too as I heard that it would help to kill lots of bad stuff that birds can get. Any advice based on the new information I have posted. Thank you very much for your response. I REALLY REALLY appreciate it. This is why BYC is so great!

 

[wantbantams]

She in fact had canker and I couldn't get it to go away. 2 days ago she stopped drinking the water that I had been giving her and she stopped eating. I took her to the amish so that she could at least be eaten. I hate to just waste that little sweetie. RIP: Ashland Times Gazette Newspaper

 

[casportpony]

She in fact had canker and I couldn't get it to go away. 2 days ago she stopped drinking the water that I had been giving her and she stopped eating. I took her to the amish so that she could at least be eaten. I hate to just waste that little sweetie. RIP: Ashland Times Gazette Newspaper

Sorry for your loss.

 

[JoePa]

I'll tell why your chickens keep getting sick - you let them free range - that's why - I know that it seems letting chickens free range is said to be healthy for the chickens and they like it very much - but I think differently - free ranging lets them get into all kinds of trouble - predators, diseases - you name it - I never had a sick chicken - never wormed any of my chickens and never lost one to a predator - why - because I have them in a real nice shelter and keep a closed flock - hope that helps - JoePa

 

[casportpony]

I'll tell why your chickens keep getting sick - you let them free range - that's why - I know that it seems letting chickens free range is said to be healthy for the chickens and they like it very much - but I think differently - free ranging lets them get into all kinds of trouble - predators, diseases - you name it - I never had a sick chicken - never wormed any of my chickens and never lost one to a predator - why - because I have them in a real nice shelter and keep a closed flock - hope that helps - JoePa

So how exactly does free ranging cause egg laying issues that result in death?