*Buff Orpington Thread!*

Can someone help me understand the difference between a BO English vs American vs hatchery? Pros and cons, also pics of the difference because I am hearing there is a visible difference but have not seen it so i think side by side photos would help me to see it.

I am obsessed with Buff Orpingtons
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Can someone help me understand the difference between a BO English vs American vs hatchery? Pros and cons, also pics of the difference because I am hearing there is a visible difference but have not seen it so i think side by side photos would help me to see it.

I am obsessed with Buff Orpingtons :woot


English BO have a more round body shape, like a basketball with wings (which I adore :D). American or standard bred BO's will have a shape kind of like A RIR. If you have side-by-side photos, you will see a difference. Hatcheries will only carry the standard type, so if the English is more to your fancy go online and find a breeder. There are several small good breeders out there that care about the conformation and genetics of their birds.

BO's are the greatest IMHO! My heart belong to the Brits :love

PS: Check out my avatar, that's an English BO.
 
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English BO have a more round body shape, like a basketball with wings (which I adore
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). American or standard bred BO's will have a shape kind of like A RIR. If you have side-by-side photos, you will see a difference. Hatcheries will only carry the standard type, so if the English is more to your fancy go online and find a breeder. There are several small good breeders out there that care about the conformation and genetics of their birds.

BO's are the greatest IMHO! My heart belong to the Brits
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PS: Check out my avatar, that's an English BO.
My avatar is a buff pullet at 5 months, who is bred to the APA Standard of Perfection.She weighs 10 lbs now, at 2 years old.Do not mistake US bred birds, bred to the standard, with hatchery birds.Hatchery birds are MUCH smaller and narrower, and have been crossed with other breeds. SOP Buffs can be just as large as the English birds. I know, as I have both.

English Orps are rounder,more profusely feathered, and shorter backed than Buffs bred in the US. They do not, as a rule, lay as well as US birds. I have found that my crosses with English birds do lay well, as I breed for a slightly longer body and back, that will also show well in the US. Any Orps shown in the US will be judged by the APA Standard , NOT the English Standard.

You can see lots of photos on my profile page of English , US bred bird, and crosses. No hatchery birds there though.

Hopefully that Buff on your avatar, Izzygreenbird is yours, as it is not quite Kosher to use anyone's photos without their permission. My Monty's photo has been wrongly used many times. Here he is below. He is an Imported Buff Orp.



Here is his daughter out of the bird on my avatar. This is the Brat at 5 months old. She is 50% English and 50% US.

 
My avatar is a buff pullet at 5 months, who is bred to the APA Standard of Perfection.She weighs 10 lbs now, at 2 years old.Do not mistake US bred birds, bred to the standard, with hatchery birds.Hatchery birds are MUCH smaller and narrower, and have been crossed with other breeds. SOP Buffs can be just as large as the English birds. I know, as I have both. English Orps are rounder,more profusely feathered, and shorter backed than Buffs bred in the US. They do not, as a rule, lay as well as US birds. I have found that my crosses with English birds do lay well, as I breed for a slightly longer body and back, that will also show well in the US. Any Orps shown in the US will be judged by the APA Standard , NOT the English Standard. You can see lots of photos on my profile page of English , US bred bird, and crosses. No hatchery birds there though. Hopefully that Buff on your avatar, Izzygreenbird is yours, as it is not quite Kosher to use anyone's photos without their permission. My Monty's photo has been wrongly used many times. Here he is below. He is an Imported Buff Orp. Here is his daughter out of the bird on my avatar. This is the Brat at 5 months old. She is 50% English and 50% US.
Someday... Someday. I will be able to purchase a pair!!!! They're soooo gorgeous!
 
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Such a pitifully cute pic I had to share!

My latest hatch has a massive herniated "umbilical cord" It seems totally fine otherwise. Walking around dragging the thing behind it!! Well it scratched it and it started bleeding and sticking to the bedding. This all I knew to do to help. I'm researching it, but until I figure it out I bandaged it up.
 
"Hopefully that Buff on your avatar, Izzygreenbird is yours, as it is not quite Kosher to use anyone's photos without their permission. My Monty's photo has been wrongly used many times. Here he is below. He is an Imported Buff Orp."


Was it necessary to say this to me?

I thought this was supposed to be a friendly place to give and get information, not to be publicly admonished. I joined BYC recently. I just pointed out to the poster that my avatar is an example of an English type of Orpington, not that it was mine or that I was the breeder. Maybe I should use Brad Pitt's photo as my avatar - everyone will think he's mine! lol
 
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"Hopefully that Buff on your avatar, Izzygreenbird is yours, as it is not quite Kosher to use anyone's photos without their permission. My Monty's photo has been wrongly used many times. Here he is below. He is an Imported Buff Orp."


Was it necessary to say this to me?

I thought this was supposed to be a friendly place to give and get information, not to be publicly admonished. I joined BYC recently. I just pointed out to the poster that my avatar is an example of an English type of Orpington, not that it was mine or that I was the breeder. Maybe I should use Brad Pitt's photo as my avatar - everyone will think he's mine! lol
Breeders are painfully aware that their birds' photos are being used to sell inferior birds on many auction sites.Some of you newcomers to Buff Orps may have experienced getting chicks from purchased eggs that did not resemble the photos used to sell those eggs.Buyers are totally mislead by those stolen photos. We had 3 incidents of this last week on eBay.I recognized your avatar photo from a British site. I asked you about this photo before in another post, and you chose not to answer.I'm sure you are innocent of any intentional wrong doing, but you, and everyone else, needs to know that you should not use other peoples' photos of their birds, without the owner's permission.
 
Agreed. It is generally a bad idea to use a photo of someone else's bird for an avatar, even on FaceBook without the owner's permission. It does mislead even if that is not your intent. Or perhaps a photo that is without doubt in the public domain. People get burned all the time for having others use their photos. But if the owner of the photo does not mind, then go for it.

She was just letting you know, not trying to chew you out. I know you are innocent of any intentional wrongdoing and so does thedragonlady.
 
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Such a pitifully cute pic I had to share!

My latest hatch has a massive herniated "umbilical cord" It seems totally fine otherwise. Walking around dragging the thing behind it!! Well it scratched it and it started bleeding and sticking to the bedding. This all I knew to do to help. I'm researching it, but until I figure it out I bandaged it up.
Sadly, when this happens, the chick usually doesn't make it. But I hope yours does.
 

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