Building and working with Columbian Patterned Birds

[Joshua G]

This was one of my roosters "Brewster" he was a mixed breed but i think he looks like a Colombian Rock.







I am interested in the Colombian Rocks but i'm not sure about them yet, are they as good of an egg layer and meat bird as the Barred Rocks are?

Joshua

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

This was one of my roosters "Brewster" he was a mixed breed but i think he looks like a Colombian Rock.







I am interested in the Colombian Rocks but i'm not sure about them yet, are they as good of an egg layer and meat bird as the Barred Rocks are?

Joshua

Joshua

I raise Columbian Rocks in LF and there is no way to compare them in laying to a "production barred rock" (hatchery type). Those birds have been crossed to leghorns, and/or other breeds, for the purpose of egg laying ability.

However, my birds are "good" layers. I get an average of 180-200 eggs per yr from a female. My females reach about 8lbs when finished and males 11-12 lbs. Great birds, nice color, very rare in the US and quite enjoyable to have around.

I am "just down the road" from you so let me know if I can help you get started

Scott

 

[Joshua G]

Thanks Scott, I really like the colombian pattern, but am trying barred rocks out for the first time in february.
I would like to have several breeds so maybe Colombian Rocks will be next.
Joshua

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Here is "Mr FIX IT"....he is a project male I have raised for the purpose of eliminating the brassiness from the males. I just noticed that he is developing a quite nice tail, especially for a Rock. I'm also impressed with his balance and that he is well up on his legs. He is 3/4 Columbian Rock and should lead me forward in a great way, I hope.

He is only 7 months old and still has some filling out to do. He is a little over-dark, but that is better than overly light

 

[Joshua G]

Here is "Mr FIX IT"....he is a project male I have raised for the purpose of eliminating the brassiness from the males. I just noticed that he is developing a quite nice tail, especially for a Rock. I'm also impressed with his balance and that he is well up on his legs. He is 3/4 Columbian Rock and should lead me forward in a great way, I hope.

He is only 7 months old and still has some filling out to do. He is a little over-dark, but that is better than overly light

Very nice.

 

[Rancher3535]

Scott,

Nice male...
Who is he out of? Have you made plans as to who will you be putting him on? The reason you are using him only because he does show brassy or? How did you get ride of the Brassy? This is the first year I have seen brassy on my wyandottes. I have fed them a lot of whole corn this winter and that is when I started to see it show up.

Rob

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Scott,

Nice male...
Who is he out of? Have you made plans as to who will you be putting him on? The reason you are using him only because he does show brassy or? How did you get ride of the Brassy? This is the first year I have seen brassy on my wyandottes. I have fed them a lot of whole corn this winter and that is when I started to see it show up.

Rob

Rob

He is a combination of Columbian Rock and exhibition quality barred rock....F2 bird. I do not know the historical make up of the Columbian Wyandotte so this may not hold true for your birds. With the help of a recognized poultry "genetics expert" we determined that my birds were lacking an inhibitor referred to as APH~I, which inhibits the expression of gold. I had to locate a bird that would be carrying 2 copies of the APH~I. In my case, a barred rock works, and its within the same breed so type is not negatively impacted (in this case it actually REALLY helped on male tails). This bird carries a small amount of brassiness and will be bred back to his mother. Next offspring I will be looking for a completely "clean" male.

I will also be putting him over my 2 best hens from last yr to see if he continues the look of his tail in his male offspring

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Scott,

Nice male...
Who is he out of? Have you made plans as to who will you be putting him on? The reason you are using him only because he does show brassy or? How did you get ride of the Brassy? This is the first year I have seen brassy on my wyandottes. I have fed them a lot of whole corn this winter and that is when I started to see it show up.

Rob

Rob.....PM me your email address and I'll email you a few articles that will help in the understanding of the brassiness issue

 

[Rancher3535]

What is the difference if any between

Dark brown Db
Dark brown Db-aka-'ginger'

I am trying to get a better grasp of the letters. In the article I was reading they used Db and then all of a sudden they used
Db-aka-'ginger'. There wasn't an explanation of it just the Db.

Thanks
Rob

 

[nicalandia]

Quote:
its the same gene, but back in the day it was used to be called Ginger because it turn gold based eb or e+ birds to a ginger Red color(plus re enhancer) so the make up for the Ginger Red OEG is e+/e+ s+/s+ Db/Db and red enhancers, this bird without enhancers and Silver would be black Tailed white... Black Tailed whites are not Columbian based, and they dont show any hackle pattern as columbian based birds here an example of Black Tailed Silver bird..

interesting enough this male also has Pg(pattern gene) and Ml(Melanotic) but Db is so powerful that it will push all of that black our to the birds body to the Tail