Bumblefoot on Quail and I need help ASAP

[EvaP2025]

No worries! And jumbos are just bigger weight wise, so get a food scale and set them on and see, you can weigh a small towel and then wrap them in it, making sure they can still breathe and it’s covering their head, so they’ll stay calm, and then subtract the weight of the towel. Sadly there’s really no way around surgery. I know it can be daunting, but with a helper and something over their eyes, like a towel again, it can be easier. As far as the egg issues go, if they’re new layers, they can have “glitches” like that and that is normal, but if they’re older birds who have been laying a while, it can be a sign of issues, I wouldn’t be worried unless you’re noticing other symptoms, I would like clarification on what the egg in another egg means exactly, are you seeing double yolks?

No one large egg had 2 yolks and a small egg inside

 

[WildNectarine]

No one large egg had 2 yolks and a small egg inside

I’ll admit, I thought you were lying! But apparently it’s a thing, and very rare! And so it a double yolk! That’s awesome.

 

[EvaP2025]

I’ll admit, I thought you were lying! But apparently it’s a thing, and very rare! And so it a double yolk! That’s awesome.

Lol... its ok it was weird n has been weird with that 1 bird... I think she's a jumbo too. Today she gave me 2 eggs also one perfect circle n one normal size

 

[WildNectarine]

Lol... its ok it was weird n has been weird with that 1 bird... I think she's a jumbo too. Today she gave me 2 eggs also one perfect circle n one normal size

She may just be having some laying glitches if she’s new, but I’d keep an eye on her. What are you feeding? Do they get supplemental oyster shell?

 

[EvaP2025]

She may just be having some laying glitches if she’s new, but I’d keep an eye on her. What are you feeding? Do they get supplemental oyster shell?

I'm giving egg shells back to them and I have oyster shells but they r big... I crushed some so I'll add more to that enclosures diet.

The girl in question lol pic

 

[catesquire]

Can't help with the bumble foot, but the eggs are totally normal, assuming your hens are still young. Mine did the same weird stuff for about the first two months of laying (egg within an egg included); they're finally settling into "normal" laying now. It's just their reproductive track figuring itself out!

 

[EvaP2025]

Can't help with the bumble foot, but the eggs are totally normal, assuming your hens are still young. Mine did the same weird stuff for about the first two months of laying (egg within an egg included); they're finally settling into "normal" laying now. It's just their reproductive track figuring itself out!

It's weird she is the only 1 doing this. I know for sure she is a jumbo! I remember when she hatched she was super yellow blond lol also weird that she was laying normal jumbo eggs 1st 2 wks or so then started laying weird things... I dont mind as long as she is ok... she had 2 eggs connect that she layed few days ago.. every day is a surprise lol

 

[WildNectarine]

I'm giving egg shells back to them and I have oyster shells but they r big... I crushed some so I'll add more to that enclosures diet.

The girl in question lol pic

No need to add “more” per say, just crush a bunch to their size and offer it free choice all the time, changing it out fully maybe once a week since they’ll probably trash it a bit. My best tip for owning quail, is to never put bowls or feeders of anything along the sides, since they love to patrol the perimeter and will just go right through the bowl to do so.

 

[EvaP2025]

No need to add “more” per say, just crush a bunch to their size and offer it free choice all the time, changing it out fully maybe once a week since they’ll probably trash it a bit. My best tip for owning quail, is to never put bowls or feeders of anything along the sides, since they love to patrol the perimeter and will just go right through the bowl to do so.

Ok will do. Thank u

 

[EvaP2025]

100% it’s the shavings. And it’s not your fault.

Bumble is caused by two things, either long periods of time on “harsh surfaces” as you put it, that causes sores, or wet conditions that grow bacteria, and a foot injury for the bacteria to get into. If you’re not spot cleaning every single day to remove wet bedding, and replacing at least weekly, it’ll happen eventually. Shavings are just terrible in general, they’re absorbent, and soak all the wetness up and keep it there, and then they’re natural fibers, too, so they’re perfect for harboring bacteria, and aside from all that, they have scent oils that are toxic to birds, even pine and aspen, and it’s not natural for them to walk on puffy stuff, it’s not good for their legs, and it’ll stick to their feet when they inevitably step in poop. When I started with quail many years ago, everyone, and I mean everyone said either shavings or wire, and they still do, so don’t blame yourself, both are terrible and people just don’t know the good alternatives yet. You mentioned paper towels and carton, so you’re on the right track. What I do, with no issues, is take a “pop-up” mosquito net meant for a bed, I use queen sizes, but I’m crazy and have plenty of space, they make “bivy” sized ones you could put on a large table, put thick puzzle exercise mats beneath for foot support, about a half inch/inch or so, and paper massage table sheets inside for a liner, weighed down with sand or beanbags. You’ll have to pull out the sheets every day. It will suck. But, your birds will be happy and healthier for it. Hope this helped.

Can you show me how that flooring set up looks... found another bumbelfoot... damn it!