Bumblefoot? or????**UPDATED

[cocosandy]

two more things" Please invest in medical gloves. They are at every pharmacy. Staph is very dangerous to you!
also, did you scrape all that pus out?...popping out the plug is only the beginning of something like that. There is gonna be a big kernel inside if you go in with a strong sharp tweezer or a dental tool...you gotta dig it out or it will just continue....get all the pus out that you can...dig deep and keep spraying with bactine.

 

[artsyrobin]

OK, thanks for the info, so tylan will work? i have that, what dosage should i use?

will check on the canker meds too, he is worth all the trouble!

 

[cocosandy]

I use Tylan 50 and where I would inject 1/2 cc into a thigh, I instead inject it direct into the wound. If its really bad I inject another 1/2 cc into the thigh. Since its a roo you dont have to worry about egg withdrawal or anything, so maybe try....but systemic antibiotic doesnt seem to cure it alone...its the removal of the kernel(s) and all pus that allows it to heal....
then put neosporin in the hole and wrap with vet wrap.

 

[artsyrobin]

ok, what size needle should i be using to inject in his thigh...never done that before-

 

[speckledhen]

Tylan is really not the best antibiotic for a staph infection--it's more for respiratory stuff. Penicillin or something stronger would be better, though to tell the truth, I quit using antibiotics like that for bumblefoot a long time ago. There's nothing like getting all the gunk out to heal it up. Poor boy, that looked painful! I don't envy you. Hate dealing with bumblefoot. Some birds have it chronically, especially the very heavy ones.

I use a 22 gauge needle for penicillin.

 

[artsyrobin]

so, on cleaning it out, i still have the bottom part of his foot to do, should i wait on it and see if i got it all? he really is amazing, no limping at all... he seems oblivious

on the penicillin, i have fish penn(capsules), and liquid baytril...

 

[speckledhen]

Baytril is probably the stronger one, I'd guess, but I have no idea the dosage. Never used it. It's hard to advise you since I just read the last part of the thread tonight and haven't got all the details. Have to sign off, big storm in progress.

 

[cocosandy]

you can search on these forums for baytril dose. If you get penn be sure to get the one without the pain killer in it (dont use anything with 'caine" in the name, though topicals are not likely to kill a bird as fast as injecting it will.) My experience is that local tylan works the best if youre going to use antibiotics beyond neosporin.
But in advanced cases where its gotten involved with the tendons, it can help arrest the spread.
digging around the tendons usually ends badly, so I try to get what I can very gently and then inject tylan into it. You can use penn if you want...I use a 3 cc needle or you can use a 1 cc insulin syringe. Im not sure of the gauge but its not tiny. This doesnt seem to bother the birds that much....ducks seem to have many more nerve endings on their feet than chickens...
you find out the difference if you ever have to treat a duck!...and thats a losing proposition!

 

[rebel-rousing-at-night]

I have a hen with bumblefoot. I got Baytril that was prescribed from my vet.
It is 2 cc.(ml.) He said to mix it with enough water that would be drank by the hen in 5 days. (Crap who knows how much that is?)

Anyway give her the water for 5 days.Refrigerate the water after mixing. If I run out before the 5 days are up get more.

He said she may need a second round. I asked how long to clear this up and he said several months. Seems long to me but I've never had a chicken bumblefoot before and I'm just passing along what was just told to me last week.

Hope this helps.

 

[cocosandy]

did he remove the bumble? did he do any surgery?
I find vets, even avian vets, to be not so great on alot of these things.
can you post photos of your chicken's feet?
I would suggest calling the vet and askign for clarification of the dosage of the baytril.
If its oral you would drop it in the mouth, I think. also ask about witdrawing eggs.
I read that the suggestion was to stop using baytril on laying hens.