Cackle article claims NH and RIR autosexing?

Like other autosexing and semi-autosexing traits THESE HAVE TO BE BRED AND SELECTED FOR. Even legbars lose their reliability in autosexing if you don't cull ambiguous marked chicks and most lines of these other breeds haven't been selected for this trait in many, many generations.

Barred Rocks and Light Brown Leghorns are slightly more likely to still retain autosexing traits, but crossing lines and breeding from birds that were poorly marked chicks can ruin this in a single generation.
Yes. Which is what this lastest batch of birds were being saved for. I had selected the properly marked birds, and was watching and hoping to get a decent trio out of them. To try and Breed this trait back in. Unfortunately the Raccoon killed my rooster chicks and the best females. I have one properly marked male left but behaviorwise I had already put him in the freezer camp group. And 1 decent female chick
 
Yes. Which is what this lastest batch of birds were being saved for. I had selected the properly marked birds, and was watching and hoping to get a decent trio out of them. To try and Breed this trait back in. Unfortunately the Raccoon killed my rooster chicks and the best females. I have one properly marked male left but behaviorwise I had already put him in the freezer camp group. And 1 decent female chick
I'd pull your last male out of the pen and use him for one generation. Hatch enough that you can replace him with a son. Maybe you won't have to put up with him too long. I've kept a mean one in a separate 4x4 pen and taken the hen for conjugal visits until I could replace him.
 
I'd pull your last male out of the pen and use him for one generation. Hatch enough that you can replace him with a son. Maybe you won't have to put up with him too long. I've kept a mean one in a separate 4x4 pen and taken the hen for conjugal visits until I could replace him.
I'm going to hang on to him, as a failsafe. Tre3hugger is hatching out chicks from the same line of birds, they are going to check for a properly marked male for me. Hopefully between the two I can get away without having to order a new batch from Freedom Ranger.
 
his is the 2nd batch of NH breed stock the raccoons have gotten. They just are big dumb meat birds. Tasty slow snacks. :mad:😢
Thanks for sharing the autosexing breed information and your journey with us!

I am sorry for your loss! :hugs

I suggest the big dumb meat puppet that keeps feeding the naive juvenile chicks to the raccoon upgrade it's containment/exclusion and provide adequate protection instead of blaming the victim. :oops:

Sorry again, I hope your adventures continue to grow and thrive!:fl
 
A mean bully of a bird is not worth breeding him into a line reguardless of what kind of genes he carries.
I don't like man haters and I won't breed a male that is mean to hens, but if he's just a bully to other males it's often a sign that he'll be very protective and virile. That's something I'll often put up with for at least one generation of If need him for some reason.
 
Thanks for sharing the autosexing breed information and your journey with us!

I am sorry for your loss! :hugs

I suggest the big dumb meat puppet that keeps feeding the naive juvenile chicks to the raccoon upgrade it's containment/exclusion and provide adequate protection instead of blaming the victim. :oops:

Sorry again, I hope your adventures continue to grow and thrive!:fl
I know it was my fault. I saw the open spot in their cage wire the night before, just did not have it in me to fix it in the dark at 9.30pm. It just sucks that the coons hadnt been in their run At ALL, until the one time I wait to fix something. Trail cams are great for monitering, unfortunatley they dont warn you when something does show up.
 
I don't like man haters and I won't breed a male that is mean to hens, but if he's just a bully to other males it's often a sign that he'll be very protective and virile. That's something I'll often put up with for at least one generation of If need him for some reason.
He is too young still to tell for certain, but he acted more like a cx with food infront of him then a real chicken. I can hope he settles down but its not likely. This is my 3rd batch of these birds. And some are just too much of a meat bird. Great for your table, not so good for keeping around.
 
Ok. So. It looks like the 1 marked male I had left either lost his leg band. . . Or he had gotten out and was with the others that got ate. Considering I count 4 female tags out of 5. Means I messed up somewhere.
Ok the Goal is to breed back in sexable markings at hatch.
I have 3 females who should do well. 1 well is probably a roo. 20220624_173101.jpg

So barring getting a properly mark replacement roo, my options are down to roo chicks who showed no markings at All. 20220624_173043.jpg

And roo chicks that had showed both head spots and light wing spots.
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I am leaning towards one of the unmarked chicks. It may take an extra generation or two, but I dont think it will muddy the waters quite so much.
Any alternate opinions?
 
If I lost all my original selections, I’d start fresh again. I’m not sure how big of a deal that is for @SheaLoner, but it would be just getting another batch of hatching eggs from one county over for me.
 

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