So I'm getting together some orders for the spring and I miss my Rouens from fifteen years ago and have decided I'm going to get some. I don't need exhibition stock, just birds heavy enough I don't need to worry about them flying anywhere. I've also always like Silver Appleyards. I see that Cackle has both and was curious if anyone has gotten these breeds from Cackle and were you pleased with the quality. If you have photos I'd love to see them, or recommendations for other places or breeders I could obtain them where you've had a good experience.