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It's to make extra room in the coop, it makes it less likely they'll use the box as a perch and it makes it so you can collect eggs without going through the pen or in the coop (can't walk into out coops anyway, they are all elevated).


I love it, great idea and job.  It should really make your coop cooler (and cool to look at, LOL)


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I keep everything outside of the coop.  I don't want them spilling food indoors and you don't want to add a source of moisture (mold, ammonia, etc) inside the coop.  As dry as possible is your friend.  I currently use the commercial type hanging feeders that hold 40# of food in each run.  I had to add the lid to each feeder to keep out roosting birds and blowing rain.  But I'm still not happy with them and am working on converting to homemade PVC feeders for each pen that can be filled from outside.  We use the commercial double wall waterers and pans in all our runs for water (the first two coops have automatic water founts).  This is a HUGE source of work for us and they are all being converted to an automatic water nipple system.  In fact, there is a bag of 50 chicken nipples sitting next to my computer with paper and pen.  I'm currently designing the layout for the first bank of cages and we're going to Home Depot for PVC and fittings tomorrow.  I can't wait to get them converted, less work and cleaner for the birds.

My next project is to add misters around the top of all the runs before the heat gets too bad this year and add more permanent roofs over all the runs before next winter.  Only three runs had permanent roofs and I loved them.  We added tarps over some of the runs, but when the rain was bad I would still get muddy messes.  My mother's day gift is supposed to be my son coming over and shoveling three truckloads of sand for me.  Start/end of winter all the runs get a fresh layer of sand.  Right now my pens look like packed down concrete (mixture of sand, dirt, spilled feed & droppings cemented together). :sick

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Ya we have metal water pails and plastic bins for feeding. We feed fermented feed. But as soon as winter hits I want to have an easier way to water and keep it from freezing. We live in the mountains way north California.
 
what a situation for Mothers Day: Speedy's two injured chicks have not made it, i found their missing sibling's body inside the coop's run yesterday, & am now pretty certain that Broody #1, my beloved Eleanor (herself with two nearly three-week-old chicks) is the primary culprit -- she's been wildly aggressive toward Speedy through the exclosure wire, and I tried to let Frances (broody #3) and her six almost-week-old chicks out of their exclosure this morning for the first time, and Eleanor immediately raced up and started pecking at one of the chicks. (and a fourth broody, beautiful miss Daisy, is hatching eggs today.)

should i isolate Eleanor and her chicks? (she's been a fabulous mom to them, but seems to want to be the ONLY mom) -- and what if ALL the broodies attack each other's babies?
 
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Happy Mother's Day!!! So what are you other mothers doing on your special day? We spent yesterday painting nest boxes for our breeding pens at the farm and today, after church, we are building a quail pen! My family thinks I'm crazy to spend Mother's Day doing that but I have to get these 19 quail out of the brooder in my spare room! I can always count on lots of help if I plan a project on Mother's Day or my birthday!
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This morning I'm doing housework............................I HATE dust and I swear I could plant potatoes on top of the tall furniture in the living. This morning I'll be tackling stuff with the hand vac and a step ladder. DH is working outside, a little feed to distribute and a dead tree needs to be taken down.

This afternoon, DH promised to help me bathe all four dogs.

I really know how to celebrate, LOL

In the next couple of days, DS is coming to shovel all the sand for me. He's a gym rat and does all my hard physical labor for me with ease.
should i isolate Eleanor and her chicks? (she's been a fabulous mom to them, but seems to want to be the ONLY mom) -- and what if ALL the broodies attack each other's babies?

Chickens can be brutal towards any new chick. They view them as interlopers in their territory. Young broodies just don't have the skills yet to protect them, so it's always best if you can protect the little family until the babies get their sea legs. The babies need some time to learn to follow the broodies instructions. Then you need to introduce them to the flock much like the introduction of any young bird. The exception would be an experienced alpha hen can usually handle the rest of the flock with her chicks. An experienced broody is highly protective of the chicks and a high ranking hen is better able to handle the rest of the flock.

So sorry you lost the babies and I hope the rest do better.
 
This is a GMO Free feed they offer. Here's a pic of the tag.
King Natural Lay Pellet is GMPO free. It is not organic but at $19 a bag I think it is a great product. It also comes complete with probiotics. I also like the pellet size, which is small enough for my bantams. My chickens seem to do really well with it.
 
King Natural Lay Pellet is GMPO free. It is not organic but at $19 a bag I think it is a great product. It also comes complete with probiotics. I also like the pellet size, which is small enough for my bantams. My chickens seem to do really well with it.

I like it too. They cost 22.5 here and I have not been able to get the Starter\grower for three weeks. The Starter\grower does very well with my heritage breeds and the Bresse.

I am interested in getting pricing on the Bar Ale since I am having trouble getting the Freedom Starter.....
 
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Chickens can be brutal towards any new chick. They view them as interlopers in their territory. Young broodies just don't have the skills yet to protect them, so it's always best if you can protect the little family until the babies get their sea legs. The babies need some time to learn to follow the broodies instructions. Then you need to introduce them to the flock much like the introduction of any young bird. The exception would be an experienced alpha hen can usually handle the rest of the flock with her chicks. An experienced broody is highly protective of the chicks and a high ranking hen is better able to handle the rest of the flock.

So sorry you lost the babies and I hope the rest do better.

thanks, Deb -- for clarification, Eleanor and her chicks are fully integrated with the main flock, free-ranging outside the coop on days when i'm home (and i've been sick the last few days, so they've been out & about a lot). Speedy has spent her entire broody period inside a wire exclosure that's inside the run of the coop, since she was barging into others' nests -- she's been in there with her chicks (now just one left) since they hatched a week ago, in full view of the whole flock (including Eleanor) but separate -- her chicks got into trouble when they wiggled through the wire, and she didn't seem to be doing a very good job of keeping them close to her.

similarly Frances and her chicks have been in an exclosure inside the main run since wednesday or so, when i moved her from one of the nesting boxes. after the experience with Speedy's chicks getting hurt, i did a better job of keeping her chicks inside the exclosure with her, and i think she does a better job of calling them to her as well. Eleanor hasn't shown any of the same aggression through the wire toward Frances that she has toward Speedy (she and Speedy are constantly flaring the neck feathers at each other & trying to peck through the wire) -- and Frances historically has been higher on the pecking order than either of the other two. Eleanor often settles with her chicks just next to the side of Frances' enclosure -- but when i tried to let Frances & her chicks out this morning, Eleanor ran right at one of the chicks & i'm sure would have hurt it if i hadn't intervened. (both Speedy & Frances are back in their exclosures for now.)

none of the rest of the flock seems to pay the babies any mind at all.

i've been trying to integrate everyone like i would a new bird, a week or so being kept separate but visible -- but I may have to separate Eleanor and her chicks, and just hope that the others all behave better toward each other, as i don't have space to have four separate broody-and-chick enclosures inside the run.
 
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Do you think I might have waited a little longer than I should to lockdown the call duck eggs? Now I have to wipe out the dang cabinet!

When the calendar says "lockdown bottom shelf" on Friday, it dang well means it! At least they didn't have to fall through all three shelves to hit bottom. But Happy Mother's Day to me! There's a third one zipping, a few more call eggs and a few chicken eggs waiting to join them.
 
I like it too. They cost 22.5 here and I have not been able to get the Starter\grower for three weeks. The Starter\grower does very well with my heritage breeds and the Bresse.

I am interested in getting pricing on the Bar Ale since I am having trouble getting the Freedom Starter.....

i have not been able to find the King feeds at my local feed stores -- but i've been getting the 40# bag of Bar Ale soy-free "all natural" (not GMO-free, i don't think) for about $18/bag.
 
I like it too. They cost 22.5 here and I have not been able to get the Starter\grower for three weeks. The Starter\grower does very well with my heritage breeds and the Bresse.

I am interested in getting pricing on the Bar Ale since I am having trouble getting the Freedom Starter.....
I was having a really hard time getting it also, but my feed store now gets a pallet (25 bags) just for me every month so I am set. I also use King GMO free medicated chick starter. It is a crumble, but small enough for day olds. I really like King feed.

I was driving myself crazy switching from brand to brand. It seems every brand had things I liked and things I did not like. A few months ago, I had a few of Swede Flower rooster chicks that ended up with a vit. def. Yes, only Swedes and only the roosters. Weird I know.

I was using Bar Al at the time but now looking back I don't think it was the feed as much as it is the breed. After reading the Swedish Flower Thread I learned that vit. def. in Swedes is not un-common. According to opinions on the thread, Swedes seem to have an issue with medicated feed as it blocks the thiamine absorption. I now have supplement all my chicks to 10 weeks with added vitamines and probiotics and have not had any issues since.
 
i have not been able to find the King feeds at my local feed stores -- but i've been getting the 40# bag of Bar Ale soy-free "all natural" (not GMO-free, i don't think) for about $18/bag.

I need to see if I can get Hays feed in Woodland to get the gmo free starter for me. They do not cater to backyard folks too well by maybe I can get them to start.
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