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[OR4-hmom]

Well the second just battled it's way out but umbilical is bloody. Do you think I should isolate and see if it dries out? I don't see any other pips and I have an extra sponge that I can get humidity back up.

 

[sewandgrow]

Check out this cute video from Murray McMurray. Ron, don't they look like Pita Pintas? The ones we saw were not as black as these chicks and had the same head markings as our PPs. They are such cute chicks!

I watched your video that then lead me to another video called twin chickens by needmorechickens she completely hand hatched a double yolk egg. She says both chickens lived & one was a hen & the other a rooster.....................my gosh....I would never do that but it was very interesting. Being retires seems to leave me with too much free time on my hands.....LOL

 

[ronott1]

Okay Ron....what causes that?

Usually it is Temperatures too low.

1. Temperature too low or too high
2. Humidity too high
3. Ventilation (remove vents)

The gooey chicks come from yolk that does not absorb. In addition to incubation causes, there is also flock health and nutrition of the flock.

Shipping can make the embryo use a lot of energy to repair damage--Yolks get scrambled, air cell are damages. The white strand that holds the yolk in place breaks off.

Temperature is the first thing to concentrate on. Humidity should be in the 30 to 40% range for most breeds. It looks like it might need to be higher for Dorkings.

To increase vigor which equals yolk absorption, try cooling next time. The new advance Brinseas have it as an option. If not, take the top off of the incubator for an hour to two hours each night from day 8 to 14. That will definitely get the air flowing and will help with the air exchange within the egg.

Not absorbing the yolk is also what causes shrink wrap.

Another thing to try is to lower the temperature at lockdown to 99 and do not go over 65% for humidity. If you see condensation on the view window, humidity is too high and the Oxygen level can get to a lethal level. Temperature plus humidity lowers Oxygen.

 

[Audio51]

Remember my hovabator temp spike to 108? Frantic drive to a friend with a cab bator and an available shelf? Transferred 40+ eggs. I can't remember, there were a few extra. Anyway, candled and took out clears, getting us down to 40 exactly. Had about 36 (they move too fast to count!) hatch.

That was a better hatch than the one I had before, when there was no temperature spike! To be fair, the hatch just before, the heater was probably having issues because we had cool hatch issues with pipping and dying in the shell.

I'm very excited about those numbers!

That is a great hatch! Who woud have thought it with the spike! Sounds like you definitley made the right decision to move them.

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Yes...they were the noisiest of all the birds at the show last Saturday...and there were only 3 of them..
They are! I can't stand them , much less the horses. They are scared of giunneas.

HaHaHa!! Now I have this mental image of a horse cowering in the corner while a guinea hen saunters past....

Having a bad hatch day, already. I had one hatch last night (this morning), and she was so sticky that I had to pry her off the egg carton. Just finished the early morning chick bubble bath. Poor thing feels much better now. I hope they all aren't like that.

Me too...hope the rest go well...

It is pouring outside this morning. I know that we need the rain, but I was discouraged when I saw that it was raining. I should have put on my raincoat and boots before doing morning chicken chores. I did discover exactly how the rain drains off of our corrugated roofing panels on the quail pens. It comes right down the middle so it runs down my back while I'm feeding the chicks. I guess that I won't be lazing around in my PJs and robe today!

Ooohh....that's a bad way to wake up!

Sounds like you need some gutters on that roof!

Quote: I think I saw that one too.....I kept wondering how the egg was not getting cold and dried out while the were hatching.

 

[ronott1]

Well the second just battled it's way out but umbilical is bloody. Do you think I should isolate and see if it dries out? I don't see any other pips and I have an extra sponge that I can get humidity back up.

Yes, put medicine on it and keep the other chicks away from it.

They will peck the poor thing.

 

[Audio51]

I'm getting more Mottled Ameraucana eggs!

Hope they get here today

 

[ronott1]

Check out this cute video from Murray McMurray. Ron, don't they look like Pita Pintas? The ones we saw were not as black as these chicks and had the same head markings as our PPs. They are such cute chicks!

They do look like PPs but they are smaller and genetically different from PPs.

The mottling is different--white is in a different spot on the wings.

 

[PetRock]

Usually it is Temperatures too low.

1. Temperature too low or too high
2. Humidity too high
3. Ventilation (remove vents)

The gooey chicks come from yolk that does not absorb. In addition to incubation causes, there is also flock health and nutrition of the flock.

Shipping can make the embryo use a lot of energy to repair damage--Yolks get scrambled, air cell are damages. The white strand that holds the yolk in place breaks off.

Temperature is the first thing to concentrate on. Humidity should be in the 30 to 40% range for most breeds. It looks like it might need to be higher for Dorkings.

To increase vigor which equals yolk absorption, try cooling next time. The new advance Brinseas have it as an option. If not, take the top off of the incubator for an hour to two hours each night from day 8 to 14. That will definitely get the air flowing and will help with the air exchange within the egg.

Not absorbing the yolk is also what causes shrink wrap.

Another thing to try is to lower the temperature at lockdown to 99 and do not go over 65% for humidity. If you see condensation on the view window, humidity is too high and the Oxygen level can get to a lethal level. Temperature plus humidity lowers Oxygen.

I am having this problem with my black Langshans from my new trio. It is discouraging. The Pita Pintas and PP mixes just pop right out with hardly ever a problem. The Langshans on the other hand are sticky and have a hard time hatching. I'm going to concentrate on the nutrition that my trio is getting to see if that makes a difference. The Langshans from our field flock hatch as well as the PPs do. I've now completed about 4 hatches with the trio's eggs and even when I started them a day before the other eggs, they were still the last to hatch and were sticky. They are strong chicks once hatched but I'm sure the stress of their hatching has shortened my life!

 

[PetRock]

I'm getting more Mottled Ameraucana eggs!

Hope they get here today

I hope that they hatch well for you!!!

 

[PetRock]

I watched your video that then lead me to another video called twin chickens by needmorechickens she completely hand hatched a double yolk egg. She says both chickens lived & one was a hen & the other a rooster.....................my gosh....I would never do that but it was very interesting. Being retires seems to leave me with too much free time on my hands.....LOL

I'll have to go check that one out! I'm not really retired but Monet isn't up yet so I can pretend that I am!