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I bred my mare through shipped semen years ago. Boy, did I get the weirdest looks standing in line with a similar shipping container marked " BIOHAZARD " . The postal workers were weirded out too, LOL. Meanwhile, last week I was shipping a box of hatching eggs and the PO lady asked " anything liquid, fragile, hazardous, etc" like they normally do. Well my son, let it slip that the box was " alive ". That total freaked the PO lady out and she called for her supervisor, LOL. After much explaining, they accepted the package of eggs. I learned not to mention that I am shipping fertile hatching eggs..some PO workers don't understand. They think I am trying to send chicks in a box.:rolleyes:

It would be so cool if we could ship chicken semen like they do other livestock:)

Trisha
In the next year or so we may be from Spain not frozen. Was told once harvested there is just a short window to get the hens inseminated
 
What does this poop mean?
I'm sorry, but my first thought was it means.......................don't step there!

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It's a great way to track possible problems with the fertility, bacterial infections and other abnormalities. Last year I had very low hatch rates, so I swore I would do things differently this year, and one of those things was keeping notes, the other was cold storage of eggs.

-Kathy
Did you figure out what was causing the low hatch rates? What were your findings about cold storage of eggs?
 
UofA update:
Sad to report that both the last 2 to hatch did not make it (a black & a splash). The black one was really weak from struggling & getting cold so I wasn't too surprised but no real clue why the splash didn't make it. Maybe because it was developmentally behind the others it got steamrolled or shoved to the cooler spot under mama. Bummer but that's nature's way - the strong survive & thrive.
The other 9 are doing well, at least.
 
UofA update:
Sad to report that both the last 2 to hatch did not make it (a black & a splash). The black one was really weak from struggling & getting cold so I wasn't too surprised but no real clue why the splash didn't make it. Maybe because it was developmentally behind the others it got steamrolled or shoved to the cooler spot under mama. Bummer but that's nature's way - the strong survive & thrive.
The other 9 are doing well, at least.

Sorry to hear about that. I'm glad you've still got 9 little fuzz butts, though!
 
UofA update:
Sad to report that both the last 2 to hatch did not make it (a black & a splash). The black one was really weak from struggling & getting cold so I wasn't too surprised but no real clue why the splash didn't make it. Maybe because it was developmentally behind the others it got steamrolled or shoved to the cooler spot under mama. Bummer but that's nature's way - the strong survive & thrive.
The other 9 are doing well, at least.
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I am sorry to hear that!

Great point about the strong ones making it.

9 doing well out of 12 is very good!
 
So, fermented feed...

So what do I do? Can I leave the feed with just enough water in it that it's a sort of mushy paste?

Also, is it okay to just do the following? I take feed out, give it to the hens, and then replace what I took out with fresh feed, add a little water to moisten it, then stir it up really well. I do this about once or twice a day. This way the feed should always stay fermented, right?

I don't think there is one accepted way to feed the birds with this method. I don't use the two bucket method, and have read that one of the purposes for the two bucket method is to cut down on the smell when the feed is fermented indoors.

I use a slotted ladle, but before I got the slotted ladle, I just scooped it into the trough with some of the liquid. For the past couple of days, I have been putting fermented feed in the trough, and then I added more water, just to keep everything moist until the birds were ready to eat. (I don't get to the place where the birds live until the afternoon, so sometimes they go to the fermented feed first, sometimes to the sprouted greens, and mostly to their cricket treats. They eat the fermented feed at their leisure, and only eat a little bit at a time, rather than gobbling the whole serving up at once.)

Like sourdough bread starter, as long as you use some of the old culture in the fermented feed liquid or the fermented feed itself, that is all you should need to keep the process going. Sounds like you are doing it exactly right. However, there is the caution not to use chlorinated water because it might kill your culture. I just fill up a bucket and leave it sitting until the chlorination chemicals dissipate, and then use that to replenish the liquid.

The key is that you should get a sour smell. If you get a sweet smell, the fermentation has not gone far enough. You can still feed the birds the sweet smelling feed, you just won't have all the benefits of fermentation.
 
I don't think there is one accepted way to feed the birds with this method. I don't use the two bucket method, and have read that one of the purposes for the two bucket method is to cut down on the smell when the feed is fermented indoors.

I use a slotted ladle, but before I got the slotted ladle, I just scooped it into the trough with some of the liquid. For the past couple of days, I have been putting fermented feed in the trough, and then I added more water, just to keep everything moist until the birds were ready to eat. (I don't get to the place where the birds live until the afternoon, so sometimes they go to the fermented feed first, sometimes to the sprouted greens, and mostly to their cricket treats. They eat the fermented feed at their leisure, and only eat a little bit at a time, rather than gobbling the whole serving up at once.)

Like sourdough bread starter, as long as you use some of the old culture in the fermented feed liquid or the fermented feed itself, that is all you should need to keep the process going. Sounds like you are doing it exactly right. However, there is the caution not to use chlorinated water because it might kill your culture. I just fill up a bucket and leave it sitting until the chlorination chemicals dissipate, and then use that to replenish the liquid.

The key is that you should get a sour smell. If you get a sweet smell, the fermentation has not gone far enough. You can still feed the birds the sweet smelling feed, you just won't have all the benefits of fermentation.
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Thank you for explaining this.
 
Ugh, some of my feedstore EE 'pullets' are getting suspicious streamers... and getting into small scuffles with the Maran that is already trying to crow. If they turn out to be cockerels I'm going to be annoyed. Having no luck getting my daughter some blue/green eggs.

The nights have been so warm and the Marans are feathering out so fast we moved them into a grow-out already. The first night or so always makes me nervous. Going to wait a bit longer to be certain of the sexes before taking half to my parent's flock.
 

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