California - Northern

[Ali707]

Look what Petunia, my Avatar, did! That's a nice sized pullet egg don't you think. It's the one in the middle on the bottom flanked by an Autralorp egg on the left. Beakface has been laying smaller eggs since she started laying after being broody. That's her egg on the right. Petunia hatched exactly 20 weeks ago tonight.

This is my semi muddled understanding from NPR. The chicken as to be raised here then shipped to china. We don't inspect on either end. But it can't be Chinese chicken because their food supply is severely FUBAR ( I wonder if that words gets censored) .so now they can sell us frozen chicken and not kill people on a regular basis like they do over there.

Speaking of it don't eat ANYTHING with sliced strawberries in it. It can't be done with a machine so its all Chinese strawberries. And strawberries are one of those fruits that absorb toxins.

This is one of the reasons we got into more seriously raising our own meat with french muscovies ( to replace beef) breese ( if you are going to do it, do the best) and quail ( fast) . The problems is the globalization of the food supply freak me right out.

Good question. My question coming from a very basic why the heck can't they just do without all the chemicals etc? We are seeing it is all bad so just stop and go back to basics. Ahhhhh if only people and life were that simple.

AH Haaaaa FUBAR wasn't sensored.

I give up! I am going home to cook hot dogs and fry some GMO potatoes....At least the eggs are healthy, and the Cockerels.....

Edited to add: This is a great subject and I will be thinking a lot about it. Thank you chiqita for posting this.

well, GMO crops are generally understood to be SAFE in terms of human health, there's just big questions about their possible ecological consequences (and various moral questions as well, about taking genes from one critter & transplanting into another, which is a pretty big step beyond usual breeding/husbandry) -- so for shantih's original question of "who has the safest food supply," i think the next question necessarily should be, "Safest for whom?" the end consumer? the producers and their farm workers? the ecosystem? answers might be very different for each...

(pardon me, my professor side is showing again...)

Well basically I am narcissistic so it is all about ME! JK of course, but it is a good question.

 

[Ali707]

Notice you didn't say marans eggs! Breese eggs ship well and I think my hens are throwing girls.
Before the attack I had 22 breese littles mossy oak was going to grow out for me as meat birds . There might have been 5 roos among them.

They should be laying soon! Mine played 3 days before I had marked the first expected date. Clovis however was active as soon as he had a comb, he is a dancing fool! They are escape artists however. I'll have to post a picture of one hen getting out of the dog kennel.

So how are things at the ole home front? Did any more stragglers come home? And are the wounded healing okay?

 

[capayvalleychick]

Kim brought 12 of her young Delawares for Walt to use in his workshop on what judges look for in birds. Walt Leonard was the judge for the show and is a chicken expert extraordinaire! He lives here in N CA and participates in quite a few different threads here on BYC.

Thank you for taking those pictures and explaining!

I didn't enter the show, just brought birds for the class. Walt also helped me decide which are best for breeding. Those are the Delawares from Kathyinmo. They are not done growing, still need to fill out.

On the subject of food being shipped to China ... ALL the natural casings (like for sausage), even organic ones, are shipped to China to be cleaned and then shipped back for use in the US. There are no American companies to clean casings. I no longer eat anything in a natural casing! Bulk sausage only.

 

[alibra]

Kim brought 12 of her young Delawares for Walt to use in his workshop on what judges look for in birds.  Walt Leonard was the judge for the show and is a chicken expert extraordinaire!   He lives here in N CA and participates in quite a few different threads here on BYC.

Who's the Delaware breeder?

 

[chicksnthestiks]

hi lawatt
If your worried about taking the time to order it: I use the horse wormers from my feed stores. A pea size amount for my big hens. Cheap enough, and lasts. I got Zimectrin Gold which covers tapes too because it has Praziquantel. The only thing is if they're overloaded, it is a strong wormer. I believe Valbazen is one people were saying is safer because it's a slow release or doesn't kill off worms all at once. Not sure on that though. I just make sure my dogs don't get it. Ivermectin is poisonous to herding breeds (at least a majority of them). 

There is a blood test that tells you if your dog is sensitive to the Ivermectin.

 

[chiqita]

So how are things at the ole home front?  Did any more stragglers come home?  And are the wounded healing okay?

I have not been home for 2 days but mario said everyone is better. He is dispensing medication and not letting people free range till e goes home so he is generally hated. No stragglers have come back. So about 10 individuals are unaccounted for. But liva drusa temp is good and she bit mario when he sprayed her with pain meds so she must have energy at least. The worst off is Orlando. He is still lethargic. Vonnie and miss fury are sitting with him a lot however so maybe he is just playing the wounded hero. The ducks are much better but number 2 is a whiner. Mario has to let him sit on his lap and hide to get his shot.

We are debating spending a lot of money on refencing everything or getting a lgd. The main coop is big enough for everyone but the turkeys ( and the sereamas and breese who ave completely separate pads) to say inside all day but they are not fans. So we shall see

 

[capayvalleychick]

Who's the Delaware breeder?

Kathyinmo https://www.backyardchickens.com/u/31282/kathyinmo

There is a blood test that tells you if your dog is sensitive to the Ivermectin.

UCD did the test on my dogs. They were negative for sensitivity. Here is where you can have the test done and more info.
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/

 

[chicksnthestiks]

Thanks for posting the link, I was too lazy to go look for the like! So far the dogs in the line I have , have all been negative.

 

[Ali707]

I have not been home for 2 days but mario said everyone is better. He is dispensing medication and not letting people free range till e goes home so he is generally hated. No stragglers have come back. So about 10 individuals are unaccounted for. But liva drusa temp is good and she bit mario when he sprayed her with pain meds so she must have energy at least. The worst off is Orlando. He is still lethargic. Vonnie and miss fury are sitting with him a lot however so maybe he is just playing the wounded hero. The ducks are much better but number 2 is a whiner. Mario has to let him sit on his lap and hide to get his shot.

We are debating spending a lot of money on refencing everything or getting a lgd. The main coop is big enough for everyone but the turkeys ( and the sereamas and breese who ave completely separate pads) to say inside all day but they are not fans. So we shall see

Well shoot! I don't let people free range at my place either.

You have a good hubby. So sweet that he is doing all that while you are gone. Mine never would have.

Here is to hoping Orlando get better. Did he have any wounds or is it shock? Seems lime a long time for shock. Maybe some added B complex to the water to help with the stress?

Oh and I was going to say earlier that I have got to get over being a sissy about processing any quail or chickens. I have the solution to my concerns about China meat right here! It is either that or just give up meat...........I can't seem to give up chocolate, coffee or soda so what makes me think i can give meat up?

 

[Ali707]

PetRock it was you that gave up sugar and the other evils right? How is that going for you?