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[sewandgrow]

3 week old SDW phoenix, 99% sure I got a trio.

Yeah for you............................!!!!

I was using a 100+ gallon round stock tank as a brooder. I had a design in mind for a cover. Plywood cut into half circles, with the center cut out .... like this: D
Wire covering the openings and hinges in the center, so you could open it like a lid.

That was my plan, anyway. My husband cut a circle of hardware cloth, a few inches wider than the top of the tank and shaped the wire to curve round the edge, so it kind of snapped onto the rim. he put a 2x2 board down the center for support. I didn't like it as much as I would have liked my design but it was functional enough.

Had to move the stock tank back out for feeding the cows cubes. So now I have brooders made of pallets and doors.

Kim, your design sounds like what Cheryl had in her hatching room when she lived in Lafayette. It was really nice. I loved it. I don't know what became of it when she moved to Mexico. She had it custom made. I would do it myself but your husband is certainly better at it than I am.

He is gorgeous, good luck with him. You slap crele coloring on anything and I'm happy.

Hehehe (rubs hands together), I have in mind a project bird to work on that I've been considering for a few days.


Good luck! I can't tell you how many times I've already stared at my two Cemani chicks. Willing one to have a slightly bigger comb or for the feathering to come in different. So far, nothing.



You are joking with this one, right? True hatching addicts (of which I consider myself one too), are always jonesying for the thrill, LOL. I'm trying to cut back on birds, breeds, varieties and yet I just hatched two more batches of chicks. So there are around 50 more birds growing out at the moment. If I could just hatch and send away chicks, I'd be in heaven.

Every time Jason calls to ask if I have room in my incubator, I'm dressed and out the door in minutes to meet up at our roadside drug (erm, egg/chick exchange spot).

People discuss how much to charge for hatching eggs, I'm more like, "how much would I have to pay them to hatch their eggs?"

Crele make me drool too Deb............Robin Davis in Oregon sent my Silver Cuckoo hatching eggs & sent along an egg from her Crele project she is working on. Her rooster is "Buster" & he is gorgeous. She offered to send hatching eggs to me but I told her I am so not into breeding "project birds" even when they are gorgeous. She is so proud of him too.
As to hatching. I feel bad for those that can't hatch. I met a guy this morning while at the recycled container place hunting nest boxes & dust trays. He has Muscovy ducks & no incubator & raises 400 a year. He asked if I would hatch for him & I said I would give it a try. I have an empty Genesis so told him he could bring over some eggs for a try out. I would charge him $1 per duck that hatches for this time & work out things after that. He said he last season he took 240 eggs in @ $! an egg & only 3 hatched. Poor guy something is terrible wrong. Maybe its his fertility but his broody ducks have been hatching for him????? I will candle his eggs & see what is going on. Something new to learn for this old brain. Never done ducks before.

Oh yes Karen, you will most certainly have access! I'm so liking the Basque and Swedes for their egg dependability - already a bigger size than the Wyandottes. I may end up not doing the Wyandottes. Same with the Cream Legbars and Ameraucana's. I'm not sure I have the patience for Ameraucana's. Seriously - 7 months and no eggs?? You got to be kidding me! Meanwhile the Cream Legbars just lay away... trouble is they arn't bearded and I LOVE LOVE LOVE bearded chickens!

How exciting....yet another breed....oh boy.!!!!!!

The Arkansas Blues will start laying for you by 20 weeks old

sewandgrow responds:
Those are the U of A eight Ron????? They are on my list.

Ron, are they bearded? That would be fun

I just hate how much it costs to get into a breed only to find that they are not all you wanted. Perhaps that is why people have 10 breeds. Because each one has something they like

Yes...we have to experience each breed of interest then make hard choices.....LOL 10 breeds you say???? I was up to 23 when I started cutting down. It was such fun though..............

It's called a prolapse.
http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/04/prolapse-vent-causes-treatment-graphic.html

-Kathy

Years ago I had a poor goose with a prolapse. Being new & without the help that the now going BYC I had to put her down. The help from BYC is beyond belief.

Wait at least 5 days.

Valbazen is what they are recommending.

Kathy has a lot of great worming information linked in her Siggy.



Valbazen huh????..........I will look it up & get some if my Ivermectin is no longer good.

 

[Audio51]

Quote: I am not really able to do a lot of building due to health issues......neither is my DH. I am still trying to find a fruit bin locally. That sounds like it would be prefect for me. Our local Tool store posted on Craig's List that they had some large wooden boxes that look like they would work great, too. The are even tall enough they might be able to be cut in in 1/2 height-wise and a new floor piut on the top 1/2 to make 2 brooders. Those would be easy to frame up a split lid for that could be secured with latches.

Quote: Great idea!!! That is what I was thinking for a lid too...but hadn't thought about cutting it in half to make 2 "D"s. I have been using just the poultry netting on my short stock tank with the edges crimped sown, but that was just to keep the meat birds in. I'm sure it wouldn't keep a determined predator out though. Sometimes I wonder why our DH's can't see the mental picture we have in our heads when they are building things for us. It would make things so much easier than trying to explain it to them....

. Ron was trying so hard to surprise me by starting on the coop when we were planning it a couple of years ago, He did surprise me, but not in a good way. He almost had it together when I got home and he had the nest box on the wrong side. I hated to tell him but it had to be changed or it would not have worked in the pen at all. He is not a very patient builder and was not happy. That is part of the reason I hate to tell him we need to add more ventilation and that we really need a bigger coop...

Quote:

-Kathy

well I hope she is okay. Would oyster shells crushed be okay for extra calcium for her?

I hope she will be OK!!!

Quote: It appears ivermectin has lost it's efficacy as a wormer in poultry, so you might want to have look into it. BYC's Dawg53 showed me this study:

Source:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2816174
Ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic--trials with naturally infected domestic fowl.

Oksanen A, Nikander S.
Abstract

To evaluate the use of ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic, 29 White Leghorn hens naturally infected with Ascaridia spp., Heterakis spp. and Capillaria spp. were treated with 0.2, 2 or 6 mg/kg intramuscularly or 0.2 or 0.8 mg/kg orally. Faecal samples were collected before treatment and at autopsy, 2, 6, or 16 days after treatment, when the intestines were also examined for helminths. None of the treatments gave satisfactory anthelmintic results.

Ascaridia = roundworms
Heterakis = cecal worms
Capillaria = capillary worms

There have also been several other posts lately by people that have used ivermectin and upon necropsy have found massive worm infestations to be the cause of death.

-Kathy
Good to know! I wonder if this is true for finches too. I use moxidectin, but I know tons of people who use ivermectin

 

[chiqita]

Your Welcome!

Make sure it is Food Grade DE. It would be a good idea to get some of the liquid calcium too. I found a soft egg the other day but I do have a special needs hen out there.

It is normal for them to lay an egg like that after they molt. Hopefully her eggs will harden up quickly.

If she is a beloved pet or serious investment hen (I know some of your girls are) there are some antibiotic that fight egg yolk peratenosis if she did absorb the yolk. Not to be worried now but might look it up to be forwarned.

 

[ronott1]

Will not also kill mites and lice? I have several English Orpington's that get them

For mites, treat once a month with the Frontline spray. Get a permectrin concentrate and make up a spray and spray the coops every two weeks.

Do this until June or July and then start back up with the coop treatments only in the Fall--like October.

Hopefully we will get back to a cool wet winter and the lice and mites will be not as bad next year. We had the warmest winter on record this winter. Not good for keeping lice and mites down.

Treat for worms two or three times a year using one of the safe wormers that Kathy has in her siggy.

 

[ronott1]

If she is a beloved pet or serious investment hen (I know some of your girls are) there are some antibiotic that fight egg yolk peratenosis if she did absorb the yolk. Not to be worried now but might look it up to be forwarned.

I was thinking that too.

 

[Chickengirl1304]

If she is a beloved pet or serious investment hen (I know some of your girls are) there are some antibiotic that fight egg yolk peratenosis if she did absorb the yolk. Not to be worried now but might look it up to be forwarned.

Thank you! That is great to know. Seems I find more and more things I need to just have "on hand" just in case lol

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Allegedly it will kill mites, but it is not effective against non-biting lice. Like many, I have a full bottle that's not good for much, lol. I guess it could be used to treat air sac mites, but don't quote me on that, lol.

-Kathy

 

[Chickengirl1304]

For mites, treat once a month with the Frontline spray. Get a permectrin concentrate and make up a spray and spray the coops every two weeks.

Do this until June or July and then start back up with the coop treatments only in the Fall--like October.

Hopefully we will get back to a cool wet winter and the lice and mites will be not as bad next year. We had the warmest winter on record this winter. Not good for keeping lice and mites down.

Treat for worms two or three times a year using one of the safe wormers that Kathy has in her siggy.

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

 

[chiqita]

Yeah for you............................!!!!


Kim, your design sounds like what Cheryl had in her hatching room when she lived in Lafayette. It was really nice. I loved it. I don't know what became of it when she moved to Mexico. She had it custom made. I would do it myself but your husband is certainly better at it than I am.
Crele make me drool too Deb............Robin Davis in Oregon sent my Silver Cuckoo hatching eggs & sent along an egg from her Crele project she is working on. Her rooster is "Buster" & he is gorgeous. She offered to send hatching eggs to me but I told her I am so not into breeding "project birds" even when they are gorgeous. She is so proud of him too.
  As to hatching. I feel bad for those that can't hatch. I met a guy this morning while at the recycled container place hunting nest boxes & dust trays. He has Muscovy ducks & no incubator & raises 400 a year. He asked  if I would hatch for him & I said I would give it a try. I have an empty Genesis so told him he could bring over some eggs  for a try out.  I would charge him $1 per duck that hatches for this time & work out things after that. He said he last season he took 240 eggs in @ $! an egg & only 3 hatched. Poor guy something is terrible wrong. Maybe its his fertility but his broody ducks have been hatching for him????? I will candle his eggs & see what is going on. Something new to learn for this old brain. Never done ducks before.

Muscovies are a pain to incubate. This is why I have 4 birds sitting on muscovy eggs and chrissy may still curse my name on occation. I hope to never have to really master it lol.

Audio if building stuff really is problomatic have you thought about just using plastic poultry wire and screws for the top of your peach box? It is not preditor proof only if you brood in garage or shed etc. But easy and you roll it up when done.

 

[Chickengirl1304]

For mites, treat once a month with the Frontline spray. Get a permectrin concentrate and make up a spray and spray the coops every two weeks.

Do this until June or July and then start back up with the coop treatments only in the Fall--like October.

Hopefully we will get back to a cool wet winter and the lice and mites will be not as bad next year. We had the warmest winter on record this winter. Not good for keeping lice and mites down.

Treat for worms two or three times a year using one of the safe wormers that Kathy has in her siggy.

Frontline for dogs?