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So ... I haven't posted here recently. I would like some help though. My mother really likes the Phoenix roosters, and she was going to get one through a friend who knew someone who was trying to rehome one . . . but the roo got out of it's pen and never returned. So now, I'm here. Hoping someone among you has or knows someone who has a Phoenix roo that needs a home. Free or very cheap, and I hope to not travel far to get it (we live in Scott Valley).
 
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So ... I haven't posted here recently. I would like some help though. My mother really likes the Phoenix roosters, and she was going to get one through a friend who knew someone who was trying to rehome one . . . but the roo got out of it's pen and never returned.  So now, I'm here.  Hoping someone among you has or knows someone who has a Phoenix roo that needs a home.  Free or very cheap, and I hope to not travel far to get it (we live in Scott Valley). 

The ones with the tails? I have never seen one cheap.
 
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So ... I haven't posted here recently. I would like some help though. My mother really likes the Phoenix roosters, and she was going to get one through a friend who knew someone who was trying to rehome one . . . but the roo got out of it's pen and never returned.  So now, I'm here.  Hoping someone among you has or knows someone who has a Phoenix roo that needs a home.  Free or very cheap, and I hope to not travel far to get it (we live in Scott Valley). 

The ones with the tails? I have never seen one cheap.


X2.

-Kathy
 
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So ... I haven't posted here recently. I would like some help though. My mother really likes the Phoenix roosters, and she was going to get one through a friend who knew someone who was trying to rehome one . . . but the roo got out of it's pen and never returned. So now, I'm here. Hoping someone among you has or knows someone who has a Phoenix roo that needs a home. Free or very cheap, and I hope to not travel far to get it (we live in Scott Valley).
@sewandgrow had a pen of fancy chickens. I think they were her Son's. Maybe she knows where to find some.
 
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So ... I haven't posted here recently. I would like some help though. My mother really likes the Phoenix roosters, and she was going to get one through a friend who knew someone who was trying to rehome one . . . but the roo got out of it's pen and never returned.  So now, I'm here.  Hoping someone among you has or knows someone who has a Phoenix roo that needs a home.  Free or very cheap, and I hope to not travel far to get it (we live in Scott Valley). 
Go to this group and post "in search of Phoenix rooster" and you will find some :)
https://m.facebook.com/groups/385734384856048?ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_activity&actorid=1327865451
 
I gave the eggs to Frieda the night of the 14th, so 21 days would technically be this Sunday night, right? And sometimes eggs under a broody (heh, my phone recognizes that word) will hatch a day earlier? Anyway, the pen is ready to move mama and chicks into...

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I've got the pop door blocked so I don't have to chick-proof the run--and so the neighborhood kids can look but not touch.
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Since the nest boxes are about 2 feet above the litter, I've locked Frieda down!
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Here is some of the King Fire photos I just took. Sorry theres only 1 safe place to stop you can see the devastation thru the trees while driving though for sure .
you can see the copter circling a actively burning area. it appears to be in the fire though as I believe it will be 100% contained by tonight. thou it will smolder till the rain comes this winter in spots











 
So I realize this could sound controversial, but please hear me out.

The USDA recommends against Merek's vaccines for small flocks, so none of my birds are vaccinated. I have never owned vaccinated birds and I have never had a case of Mereks, a disease which is endemic EVERYWHERE. After 6 months of age virtually all chickens have been exposed to Merek's and most fight off the disease without ever having symptoms much the same way 85% of humans have been exposed to herpes by age 25, but only 12% of people ever have symptoms. In addition, the Merek's vaccine is only effective in 7% of birds. For a commercial flock of 300+ birds that is a significant enough number for the USDA to recommend it. For a small flock of 10-30 birds, it may not be effective for even a single bird in your flock.

I recommend against an immediate panic reaction when a case shows up in your flock of unvaccinated birds. Wait and observe your flock and remove any other birds that show symptoms, but you dont necessarily need to cull them all or replace them, as most will likely recover without ever showing symptoms.
 
So I realize this could sound controversial, but please hear me out.

The USDA recommends against Merek's vaccines for small flocks, so none of my birds are vaccinated. I have never owned vaccinated birds and I have never had a case of Mereks, a disease which is endemic EVERYWHERE. After 6 months of age virtually all chickens have been exposed to Merek's and most fight off the disease without ever having symptoms much the same way 85% of humans have been exposed to herpes by age 25, but only 12% of people ever have symptoms. In addition, the Merek's vaccine is only effective in 7% of birds. For a commercial flock of 300+ birds that is a significant enough number for the USDA to recommend it. For a small flock of 10-30 birds, it may not be effective for even a single bird in your flock.

I recommend against an immediate panic reaction when a case shows up in your flock of unvaccinated birds. Wait and observe your flock and remove any other birds that show symptoms, but you dont necessarily need to cull them all or replace them, as most will likely recover without ever showing symptoms.
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You have made very sound points and the conclusions are spot on.

I too received that doom and gloom message but ignored it. All I have ever had was one hatchery hen that died at 2.5 years old from the cancer that comes after mareks. No other symptoms.


edited to add: after about a week, vaccinated and not vaccinated chickens can be in the same flock. There have been studies and the vaccinated chickens will not infect the not vaccinated chickens.
One does not need to close a flock due to mareks since all chickens are exposed to it within several days of age.
 
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